Posted on 02/05/2014 2:43:22 AM PST by Olog-hai
“Science Guy” Bill Nye tapped on the podium, threw up his hands and said “billions and billions” in a Kentucky museum that has become widely known for teaching that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.
Nye was debating Creation Museum founder Ken Ham and promoting science in the snappy way that made him a pop culture staple as host of “Bill Nye The Science Guy” in the 1990s.
The event was meant to explore the age old question, “How did we get here?” from the perspectives of faith and science. …
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I am an engineer and a creationist. Nothing I do depends on evolutionary theory. Everything I do depends on observable science. Nothing I do is left to chance. Everything I do is deliberate and for a purpose.
It is absurd to believe that the circuits I’ve designed, or the programs I write, could be improved by coding errors, copying errors, or random noise injected by mindless agents, like electrical outages and alpha particle bombardment.
If there is no intelligence in nature, then how did intelligence “evolve”? The only answer that Mr. Nye seemed to have for challenges like these is, “That is a great mystery.”
Indeed.
The older I get, the less I believe in a purely literal seven-day creation. I find myself becoming more of a permeationist.
The earth is NOT 6,000 years old. Period.
Your electrical circuits and coding are far more restrictive in terms of the applicable rules and outcomes than chemical combinations of atoms and molecules.
What would you define intelligence to be?
You should SAY that instead of hiding behind an unknown word and concept.
So ...
Catholics don't believe in a literal seven day creation ... or YOU don't ?
“If you like your healthcare you can keep your healthcare. Period.”
Absolutely true.
“Creationists” are not. They are fools who make people of faith look like idiots.
The Bible is not a scientific text - its a book about morality and salvation. And people of faith who argue to try and make it otherwise are hurting all of us.
> Your electrical circuits and coding are far more
> restrictive in terms of the applicable rules and outcomes
> than chemical combinations of atoms and molecules.
Really? How so? My work depends on predictable, deterministic behavior of chemical combinations of atoms and molecules. My work is far less delicate than the vastly more complex development and operation of highly specialized organs working in harmony for the preservation and continuance of a conscious, intelligent life form.
> What would you define intelligence to be?
The positing of a question, to begin with. :)
Could anyone in the 1800’s even fathom all the technology that has developed and a part of our everyday modern lives?
We can not know all knowledge at one time but more occurs with future revelations. Intelligent design by an intelligent Creator. To divorce the Creator from science is impossible and its either arrogant or stupid to embrace that train of thought.
What rhymes with Nye is ‘Lie’.
See post #11 for a link to an article that I thought had a very interesting take on the topic.
God left Uranium that’s only 6,000 years old but looks like it’s been there for 4.5 billion years as a practical joke?
When one looks at a painting like the Mona Lisa there is no doubt one knows a great artist painted it. So when one looks at nature or the universe it takes a great leap of illogic to conclude that there is no Creator.
Fleas arguing about how the dog got here.
It looks like a logical way to approach it. But what I can’t agree with with respect to these Creationists is that the Bible is scientific text. I think that is absurd. It may be historic as it presents historic events, but its not a history text.
Its a guidebook to salvation - about God, man, morality, human failure and triumph, Redemption, the way to treat people and society. And when people start looking to it as something else, they get into problems.
You are exactly right about our Creator. However, it is also a horrific leap of illogic to pretend all of His creation doesn’t point to an old, OLD universe.
It's also a history book.
But nowhere does the Bible say the earth is 6,000 years old - that is a figure that man deduced.
We have little idea of the true flow of time in ages past, but we do know that time is not a constant, (we're not even sure if the speed of light is a constant).
I’ve never seen the Bible as a scientific or historical text, but as a guide for my faith. I don’t need two pseudo-scientists battling it out to either believe or not believe. That’s why it’s called faith people. There are unknowns yet we still believe. Faith.
As a creationist, whom you say is a fool, I simply believe the Bible over what the world says. This I believe because I've been loved by God through Christ Jesus. And if the Lord Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul and many other key figures believed that Adam and Eve were the first man and first woman (my first ancestors) then I must look seriously at Genesis.
From there I find that God made the Sabbath day Holy on the Seventh Day because He rested from making His creation on the Seventh Day and establishing the seven day week which we use to this day.
As for the earth being 6000 years old, have you ever noticed the Jewish dating system in terms of years?
It really comes down to what you believe. Ether you believe that everything comes down to chance or that God has a sovereign purpose for everything and a Love worth living for.
Just a thought.
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