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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 51 DECEMBER 20, 2013
Free Republic | 12/20/2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 12/20/2013 10:03:22 AM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: greeneyes

We had freezing rain yesterday and overnight here in CoMO. I need to go out and dig some horseradish root for my Christmas roast before it turns cold and freezes the soil.


101 posted on 12/22/2013 9:35:21 AM PST by Augie
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To: Marcella
I'm staying in my house.

Just checking to see if you have cabin fever yet..I would think you have lots of things to do to entertain yourself.

102 posted on 12/22/2013 10:56:45 AM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; rightly_dividing; sockmonkey; Nepeta; Silentgypsy; ApplegateRanch; ...
“Just checking to see if you have cabin fever yet”

I'm always working on something, either mental or otherwise. Looked at my seeds and the sheet I made where they are all listed, to actually get the seed packets out that I'm about to plant under the grow lamp.

I have a question:
A seed company sent me, free, one envelope of seed for two orders I sent them, and the envelopes are both “Garden Cress”. Takes 10-28 days to grow. It says on the envelope, “Similar to watercress, extra curled variety from Europe and Asia minor. Like some shade and moisture.

How would I use that and is it important enough for me to even grow it?

Another question:
I have an envelope of Sweet Basil and one of Lemon Basil. I am going to buy some herbs in spring when Lowes has them, so does it make sense to plant these two basils or not?

I have so many envelopes of seeds and I've been doing this not even a year. All of you must have tons of envelopes of seeds if I have this many in less than a year.

I've tried today to nail down what gets planted and how many containers I would need and what goes in each container. It gets mind boggling.

103 posted on 12/22/2013 1:13:53 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
I plant basil to be in full production when the tomatoes are scheduled to be ripe.

Basil is too easy to start to buy already started plants. The plants that are already started are too expensive, except for hard-to-start stuff like thyme or rosemary.

/johnny

104 posted on 12/22/2013 1:19:46 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Are small pots okay for the two basils? Like a pot 5 inches across and maybe five inches deep?


105 posted on 12/22/2013 1:34:21 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
Those are a great size.

/johnny

106 posted on 12/22/2013 1:35:45 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella

Off topic but we bought one of those 10-year Kidde smoke alarms per your rec!


107 posted on 12/22/2013 2:06:49 PM PST by Silentgypsy (Can't sleep; zombie turkeys will get me..)
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To: Silentgypsy

My Kidde alarms came day before yesterday. To start the enclosed lifetime battery, you twist it on the holder and that starts the battery. Maybe you bought yours in a store and already know what starts the battery. Now, I’ve got smoke alarms again and don’t have to think about them for ten years.


108 posted on 12/22/2013 2:15:33 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: rightly_dividing

I thought that onions and grapes were toxic to dogs.


109 posted on 12/22/2013 2:17:09 PM PST by Silentgypsy (Can't sleep; zombie turkeys will get me..)
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To: Marcella

Mr. Sg makes his own jerky and it tasted much better than the store-bought stuff.


110 posted on 12/22/2013 2:22:13 PM PST by Silentgypsy (Can't sleep; zombie turkeys will get me..)
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To: murrie

I wonder how long they’d last with four cats around....


111 posted on 12/22/2013 2:27:32 PM PST by Silentgypsy (Can't sleep; zombie turkeys will get me..)
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To: ApplegateRanch

We use London broil for jerky. “Extruded”-ick.


112 posted on 12/22/2013 2:38:23 PM PST by Silentgypsy (Can't sleep; zombie turkeys will get me..)
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To: Marcella

Those are great basils. It’s way cheaper to grow basil from seed than it is to buy it. Some herbs are better bought, lemongrass, tarragon, and mints for example. Some are devlishly easy to start from seed. Basil is one of those. You might want to start 3 or 4 divots and do that every week or two as it will eventually bolt. This way you’ll have a fresh supply continuously. If you don’t let it bolt at the same time you can save seeds from each kind.


113 posted on 12/22/2013 3:21:55 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Marcella

The garden cress is nice in salads and on sandwiches, if you like (& can’t get) watercress.

Like arugula, it’s one of those things that is a nice extra that we have no trouble living without.


114 posted on 12/22/2013 3:39:02 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Black Agnes

OK, guess I will grow the two basils and buy the rest of the ones I have on a list somewhere, have to find that list.


115 posted on 12/22/2013 4:12:04 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Ellendra
It seems that you can't get away with anything anymore........... I recovered viable kiwi seeds from store bought fruit. Just spoon out the seeds from a ripe fruit, then wash and dry the seeds. Not all will sprout, but I have 3 kiwi plants growing in pots. You can use the same technique for Dragon Fruit

I've never ordered from Amazon, but it was either Burpee's or Gurney's that sold my email address and I was inundated with spam. I avoid both now.

Do you have a web address for the government seed bank? I couldn't find it on a google search.

116 posted on 12/22/2013 5:20:18 PM PST by Sarajevo
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To: Black Agnes

I have opened a file card box just now with seed packets from 2011 in there. My husband ordered these as he was going to grow something besides tomatoes. He was the tomato man and I was not anything in that garden. He never planted this seed as the cancer prevented that and he died that summer in August and I hadn’t opened that box until today.

In the box is a seed planter that is a six inch or so piece of metal with a crease down the middle in which to put the seed and let it drop into the soil.

There was two packages of Wild Galapagos Tomato seed which I know now will not grow here plus Alpine wild strawberry seeds and they won’t grow here, either, so I dumped those seed packets.

Are you aware, in your experience, of any of these seeds as to whether they are worth planting (I have a lot of seed to grow):

Oak Leaf Lettuce
Cucumber SMR-58 (Everbearing)
Matt’s Wild Cherry Red Tomato


117 posted on 12/22/2013 5:38:09 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Sarajevo

Unfortunately, the kiwi in the stores is a subtropical vine. The one I was trying to order is hardy enough to survive in Wisconsin. But thank you!

The seed bank is at http://www.ars-grin.gov/


118 posted on 12/22/2013 10:10:38 PM PST by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Sarajevo

I should probably mention, the interface for the seed bank is designed for scientists, so it’s not very user-friendly sometimes. And, while they will send seed to just about anybody, it has to be “for research purposes”. Fortunately, they are pretty flexible as to what counts as research, but they will expect at least a summary of what you’re testing.

(I think the last time I ordered from them, for my intended research I put something like “Investigating the growing properties and tolerances of these plants in various soil and weather conditions. Researching and developing new varieties. Testing possible commercial applications.”)


119 posted on 12/22/2013 10:28:20 PM PST by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: JRandomFreeper; MomwithHope
Several kinds of onion seed is under the grow lamp and going to get several kinds of pepper seed under there today.

Johnny, when do I put the basil and lemon basil seed under the grow lamp?

MomwithHope, I have the Sabre tomato seed in the freezer. That will be a fall planting started by the middle or last of July. The Burpee’s “Long Keeper” Tomato will also be started then.

120 posted on 12/23/2013 10:32:51 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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