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1 posted on 12/14/2013 7:18:01 AM PST by rickmichaels
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I have no problem with them shipping crude on the salt-water oceans, but the fresh-water Great Lakes is another issue. Still prefer pipelines.


3 posted on 12/14/2013 7:24:39 AM PST by madison10
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Interesting news. The biggest constraint is the lock systems throughout the Great Lakes. Under the political pressure from the North American railroad industry, they were never built to accommodate ships that are commonly used in international shipping today. Crude oil from the center of North America must be trading at a huge discount in order to make up for these major inefficiencies in transportation costs.


4 posted on 12/14/2013 7:26:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: rickmichaels

Real plan or just a case of grabbing a hostage and shouting “Give us the pipeline or the lake gets it”?


5 posted on 12/14/2013 7:27:39 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: rickmichaels

It would explain why Karl Lenin and Debbie Stupid cow have suddenly become interested in the pipeline under the straits.


8 posted on 12/14/2013 7:45:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Sounds OK to me until...

the winds of November come early.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A


13 posted on 12/14/2013 7:54:25 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym defines the science.)
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To: rickmichaels

BP’s Whiting refinery is just finishing their modernization project, originally called Operation Canadian Crude. For the past few years, it was the largest construction project going in the US. Whiting refinery is in northern Indiana, ON the shores at the southern end of Lake Michigan. It is the fourth largest refinery in the US.


14 posted on 12/14/2013 8:01:50 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: rickmichaels

The links do not work for me.

Duluth-Superior is already one of the nation’s biggest ports and the area population is 300,000. Not really the sleepy small town indicated.


18 posted on 12/14/2013 8:28:49 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: rickmichaels; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Alberta oil sands oil via the Great Lakes

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20 posted on 12/14/2013 8:33:55 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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Good luck keeping Lake St. Clair dredged deep enough for the tankers, not to mention the Soo Locks bottleneck.


22 posted on 12/14/2013 8:38:51 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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