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To: rickmichaels

Interesting news. The biggest constraint is the lock systems throughout the Great Lakes. Under the political pressure from the North American railroad industry, they were never built to accommodate ships that are commonly used in international shipping today. Crude oil from the center of North America must be trading at a huge discount in order to make up for these major inefficiencies in transportation costs.


4 posted on 12/14/2013 7:26:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child
The locks had and have little to do with the lack of international size ships transiting the lakes. 28 foot draft might be more of a reason. Plus the Welland Canal limits lake shipping to about 75 feet width.
6 posted on 12/14/2013 7:36:02 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Excellent Observations about the locks at the Welland Canal and Sault Saint Marie, Michigan. There is one further problem. Depth of the lakes and channels. Ships using the Great Lakes whether lake ore boats carrying iron ore or other bulk products and ocean going ships can load to a draft of about 25 feet. About half the draft for ships that call on ocean ports.


7 posted on 12/14/2013 7:36:54 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Alberta's Child

vs hauling it halfway around the world?


10 posted on 12/14/2013 7:49:27 AM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Alberta's Child

the great lakes have locks?


17 posted on 12/14/2013 8:19:47 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Alberta's Child

There was an article here in the last few days talking about using rail to take Bakken crude to the East Coast, instead of to the south. The differential was on the order of $25 or $30 a bbl IIRC.


31 posted on 12/14/2013 8:57:10 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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