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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 50 DECEMBER 13, 2013
Free Republic | 12/13/2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 12/13/2013 12:25:11 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: Black Agnes

I’m reading on the web and it appears I need screen in the bottom to keep soil from going outside the container and then rocks on top of that to keep soil from clogging up the drainage. If I had screen and I’m not positive I don’t, will have to look, I have marbles that were used for decorating and they are just in the way now, so could use those. They are too small to use without the screen keeping them from going through the holes.

Rats, why does this have to be more complicated than putting in soil and plant? Rats.


281 posted on 12/16/2013 12:39:57 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
Why exactly do I need rocks in there?

Placement of rocks in the bottom of containers was discussed on a weekly gardening radio program I listen to faithfully. According to latest advice, this is NOT necessary.

By the way, this is a great show. I learn something every week:
http://www.ronwilsononline.com/pages/RonWilson.html

It is nationally syndicated.

If you still want to place rocks in the bottom, look in a place that sells landscaping materials, or a place catering to water gardening projects.
282 posted on 12/16/2013 12:45:26 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: Marcella

Oh, the marbles are a great idea.

My mom had houseplants and used to cover the top of the soil with the ‘pretty pretty’ aquarium rocks (you know, the rounded ones in ‘decorator colors’) to keep the cats from digging in them.


283 posted on 12/16/2013 12:48:57 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Nepeta; rightly_dividing

“According to latest advice, this is NOT necessary.”

What about a compromise? I checked the storage room and there is no screen. What I do have is bunches of netting I use over plants but I have gobs extra. What if I folded that net over and over and over until it is a globbed mess and put that in the bottom, then dump some of those marbles I mentioned, over the net.

rightly, would that do it?


284 posted on 12/16/2013 12:52:40 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: rightly_dividing; Marcella
Hummies do like the Gartenmeister Fuchsia.


285 posted on 12/16/2013 12:59:54 PM PST by Daffynition (Make Laura Bush's *Cowboy Cookies* for Christmas! They're GREAT!)
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To: Marcella

I use the chards of broken clay pots for drainage.


286 posted on 12/16/2013 1:01:45 PM PST by Daffynition (Make Laura Bush's *Cowboy Cookies* for Christmas! They're GREAT!)
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To: Marcella; Nepeta

You can get bags of rocks at Lowes. If you can water the correct amount, drainage is not a big issue, but if you like to water heavily like I do, especially with established plants that may be rootbound, the rocks are a good policy.

Anytime I start a container, I fill the bottom 1/3 with rocks. Then when my drip irrigation comes on, no concerns about drowning, It can run and run. With plenty of drainage, only the soil is holding water, not the container.

YMMV


287 posted on 12/16/2013 1:02:39 PM PST by rightly_dividing (2 Tim. 2:15)
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To: Daffynition

Great capture!


288 posted on 12/16/2013 1:03:54 PM PST by rightly_dividing (2 Tim. 2:15)
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To: rightly_dividing

As spring turns into summer, the Gartenmeister is only an *attractant* for the hummmies. Once they are *here*, and summer is established the lazy little buggers prefer the nectar tubes than the *work* needed to get at the natural nectar in the fuschia blossoms. :)


289 posted on 12/16/2013 1:08:51 PM PST by Daffynition (Make Laura Bush's *Cowboy Cookies* for Christmas! They're GREAT!)
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To: Daffynition

My wife feeds the birds and squirrels 25-30lb of seed per week, but the hummers keep her hopping, sometimes filling it twice a day.


290 posted on 12/16/2013 1:17:57 PM PST by rightly_dividing (2 Tim. 2:15)
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To: Marcella

Maybe for drainage? I always stick rocks in the bottoms of my containers because I tend to drown plants. Alternatively, I’ll take two matching containers with drainage holes in the bottom, put some jars or other objects of similar depth upside-down in the first container and stick the matching container on top of whatever you stuck in the first container to elevate the bottom of it for drainage. Usually, I put some sort of porous landscaping fabric in the bottom of the upper container so that the soil doesn’t wash through the drainage holes. Then I plunk the plant in with the soil. Is this clear? Anyway, I don’t know what I’m doing so you should listen to someone else. :)


291 posted on 12/16/2013 2:09:40 PM PST by Silentgypsy (Mondays should be outlawed.)
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To: greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; rightly_dividing; sockmonkey; Nepeta; Silentgypsy; ApplegateRanch; ...

I’M NOT DOING ROCKS - ROCKS ARE HEAVY AND I CAN’T CARRY HEAVY CRAP!

I’m serious - I can’t carry heavy stuff and I move my containers around when I have to. Putting rocks to make something heavier is nuts. A better way is out there that it says is better than rocks and I just cut this thick material make of something, and lay it in there - now, I have to find it in a smaller amount to I can afford it - looking at Mega Store right now to see if they have it. Will give details when I find it.

ROCKS ARE TOO HEAVY.


292 posted on 12/16/2013 2:21:37 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella
You can get the lightweight volcanic rocks at Lowes.

/johnny

293 posted on 12/16/2013 2:23:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella

You might try packing “peanuts”.


294 posted on 12/16/2013 2:31:35 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Marcella

Well, you did ask. :)


295 posted on 12/16/2013 2:40:09 PM PST by rightly_dividing (2 Tim. 2:15)
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To: trisham
You might try packing “peanuts”.

I was thinking the same thing as long as they aren't the biodegradable ones. I saw a Martha Stewart Living episode years ago, where she used packing peanuts in the bottom of her pots for drainage.

296 posted on 12/16/2013 2:44:34 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey

I hate them, so using them for something rather than just throwing them out makes me feel better. Take that, packing peanuts! :)


297 posted on 12/16/2013 2:47:21 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: sockmonkey

That figures. Wherever you go, Martha Stewart has already been there, perfected the process and moved on.


298 posted on 12/16/2013 3:07:09 PM PST by rightly_dividing (2 Tim. 2:15)
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To: JRandomFreeper; rightly_dividing; All
“You can get the lightweight volcanic rocks at Lowes.”

I had already considered volcanic rock and read about it and water (pumice is also volcanic rock). Volcanic rock has holes in it and water collects in the holes. The objective of rocks in a planter is that water flows over/around them and drains (not into them and some stays inside). I dumped volcanic rock due to that. And, the only pumice I saw anyway was ground to dust to be added to the soil to help hold moisture.

Sooo, I'm looking for a cheap bag of plastic peanuts to get at Walmart because I have some light bulbs there waiting for me to pick them up - guess what, I haven't found any yet at Walmart, I did find some that are BIODEGRABLE - rats, when I want something that won't degrade, that's the time the stores pick to be “GREEN”.

Right now, I have three different types of big empty containers all around here where my chair is. I have to pop some more holes out in 5 great big green ones. Guess I didn't see but one hole in them the first time I did that, but there are more and they aren't easy to get out. Hammer and large screw driver work the best.

I'll finish looking at Walmart for the peanuts that never die and tell you if I find them. If not there, maybe they are at Lowes but that's another stop although it's on the same enormous slab of concrete as Walmart and Sams.

I have to do this tomorrow to get those blackberry plants in their house.

299 posted on 12/16/2013 3:53:05 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

Try Office Max or FEDEX type shipping places to get peanuts, but beware the prices. LOwes may have in the packing dept.

I think I have some, but not sure if they’re Green or not.


300 posted on 12/16/2013 4:53:03 PM PST by rightly_dividing (2 Tim. 2:15)
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