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Is this Common Core math question the worst math question in human history?
Daily Caller ^ | Dec 12, 2013 | Eric Owens

Posted on 12/12/2013 8:47:50 PM PST by Innovative

There are also traditional word problems. Twitchy has found a word problem that may be the most egregiously awful math problem the Common Core has produced yet.

Take a look:

15. Juanita wants to give bags of stickers to her friends. She wants to give the same number of stickers to each friend. She's not sure if she needs 4 bags or 6 bags of stickers. How many stickers could she buy so there are no stickers left over?

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TOPICS: Education; Science
KEYWORDS: commoncore; curriculum; education; learning; math; mathproblem; mathquestion; quiz; quizquestion; school; teaching
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To: Innovative

The correct answer is, “Have Obama do it.”


81 posted on 12/12/2013 10:32:53 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cementjungle

Incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial!

It’s funny. Do you know the puzzle of the farmer who wants to transport a fox, a goose, and some grain across a river on a raft, but he can only carry one of these at a time, and he cannot leave the fox and goose, or the goose and grain together? How can he do it? Of course, it’s a schematic problem, and one can raise all sorts of quibbles and qualifictions to the problem as stipulated, as I learned first hand as a youth.

My dad built a physical model of the problem with the farmer, fox, goose, and grain represented by pegs, with each side of the “river” represented by four holes for each of the pegs. You had to pull out the pegs simultaneously ( i.e. the farmer and one other ) or else it would buzz, and this was actually a fatal complication for the intent of the project, although occasionally he could do it. This was just straight wiring with a battery and a buzzer.

So what I’m saying is, you gotta go with it, you know?

First lesson!


82 posted on 12/12/2013 10:40:25 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: stormhill
Without checking the source, this appears to be a problem with the typography of the original questions.

The topic of these two questions would appear to be, "How to convert repeating decimals to fractions and fractions to repeating decimals".

My guess is that the "0.2" in the first question should really have appeared with a horizontal bar above the "2", indicating that the decimal number consists of an infinitely repeating sequence of that particular digit.

Similarly, I would guess that answer "b" to the second question should appear as a "0.83" with a horizontal bar above the "3", indicating that the digit "3" repeats infinitely.

The addition of two bars would make the questions meaningful and the answers correct.

83 posted on 12/12/2013 11:16:21 PM PST by William Tell
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To: carlo3b
Thank you! I've been looking for that for a while....

Do you recall, was that from Dave Barry's immortal "Guide To Guys"?

84 posted on 12/12/2013 11:21:23 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: SERKIT

You win.


85 posted on 12/12/2013 11:32:28 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: dr_lew
It just occurred to me that there is a deep subtext to this question. 2/3 and 5/8 are successive terms in the upper bounds to the golden ratio, ( sqrt(5)-1 )/2, given by the Fibonacci series, whereas 3/5, 8/13, etc. are correspondingly the lower bounds. Taken together, they are the ratios of the terms of the Fibonacci series,

1/2, 2/3, 3/5, 5/8, 8/13, 13/21, 21/34, 34/55, ...

... so if we ask, e.g., which is greater, 13/21 or 34/55, we have to compare 13*55/21*55 and 34*21/55*21 or 715/1155 and 714/1155, and continuing in this way the numerator of the later term will always be one less than the numerator of the earlier term, wrt the common denominator.

"beauty to find, in so many ways ..."

86 posted on 12/13/2013 12:03:20 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: William Tell
You're right.

Typography aside, they go out of their way to introduce unnecessary complexity to an already challenging subject. There are more straightforward paths to guide students through the arithmetic-algebra-analytic geometry-trigonometry-calculus sequence if that's what they're trying to accomplish.

Who knows; perhaps frustrating kids is an end in itself.

87 posted on 12/13/2013 12:08:21 AM PST by stormhill
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To: Pikachu_Dad
It's nice of you to put so much work into it, but the truth is that the problem is completely underspecified and meaningless. Is it not a well-posed question, and such questions do not have answers.

Variable friendships? Please be serious.

88 posted on 12/13/2013 12:12:43 AM PST by FredZarguna (Wink wink. Nudge nudge. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?)
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To: stormhill
The explanation for (1) actually makes sense if the decimal fraction is written as 0.̄2̄ and they've simply lost the overbar.
89 posted on 12/13/2013 12:20:58 AM PST by FredZarguna (Wink wink. Nudge nudge. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?)
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To: William Tell
Indubitably!
90 posted on 12/13/2013 12:21:45 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Delta Dawn
“X + Y = 10. Solve for X.”

Subtract Y from both sides. X=10-Y

The "solution" is valid for all values of X and Y, it does take the form of a line.

y=mx+b

91 posted on 12/13/2013 2:23:53 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Is that a joke... are these hoax questions? Regardless, if I have kids th3 will be homeschooled.


92 posted on 12/13/2013 2:26:36 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: dr_lew

In 0bama’s Amerikkka, mathematics, like policy, is based on the lowest common denominator.


93 posted on 12/13/2013 2:31:08 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: stormhill

Number 1 is probably a typo... the 2 probably in the 0.2 was meant to have a bar over it as in 0.2222222222.....


94 posted on 12/13/2013 2:36:57 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

X + Y - 10

I believe he meant it as an example of a problem without a specific solution. He probably wasn’t expecting an answer.


95 posted on 12/13/2013 3:49:48 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Innovative; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Pickles, because cats don’t wear galoshes!


96 posted on 12/13/2013 3:51:33 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Lizavetta

“How can you possibly solve this if you don’t know how many friends there are or how many stickers per bag?”

Duh, the answer is obviously “global warming”


97 posted on 12/13/2013 3:59:38 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Innovative

Simple. As many as she needs.


98 posted on 12/13/2013 4:04:49 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Rodamala

Correction: Make that X + Y = 10, not X + Y - 10.


99 posted on 12/13/2013 4:14:29 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: dayglored

No, it started a lot earlier than that, back in the early 70’s.. :)


100 posted on 12/13/2013 5:35:36 AM PST by carlo3b (“Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad,” Henry Kissinger)
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