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Harkin: Government Forcing Us to Pay for Products We Don’t Need Is America’s New ‘Values System’
PJ atler ^ | 11/05/2013 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 11/06/2013 3:24:48 PM PST by Rusty0604

Obamacare forces young men and old people to pay for maternity coverage in their health insurance. It’s a ludicrous requirement that makes everyone’s health insurance cost more. But to rich, old leftist Sen. Tom Harkin, that’s not a bug in Obamacare. It’s a feature, because it imposes his values on everyone else.

Harkin began his sermon: “I must say that there was a story the other day in the paper about somebody who said, ‘well gee, now I’ve got — I have to take this policy that covers maternity care. My wife and I aren’t having any more children.’ I don’t know, they were older or something like that. ‘Why should I have to have a policy that covers maternity care?’ I got to thinking about that. I thought well, you know what? Maybe because my wife and I don’t have any more children, and they’re grown up, maybe I should not have to pay property taxes to pay for my local schools, huh? Not my kids there anymore, why should I worry about it? Maybe only the people who have kids going to the public school ought to pay for it.”

Harkin concludes with a leftist’s version of the altar call: “That is the new value system. And we’re not turning back. Fix the problems, move ahead, but let’s aggressively get people enrolled in this system, and have a new value system of health care in America".

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; healthcare; iowa; obamacare; tomharkin; zerocare
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To: Lazamataz

Same way Kansas elected Sebelius.

Big money often trumps doctrine.

Dems have big money.


21 posted on 11/06/2013 6:46:42 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: Lazamataz

no good deed goes unpunished


22 posted on 11/06/2013 6:50:38 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Rusty0604; iowamark; jjotto; firebrand; juliej; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; nolongerademocrat; ...
Maybe Harkin doesn't realize that there are major differences between the usual (non-government) health insurance policy and a local property tax. One is a contract between two private parties in which government, pursuant to Obamacare, is interfering and dictating provisions. The other is a tax, which by definition compels a private citizen or private company involved in a specified activity to pay a government so that it can (theoretically) raise funds for the common good. BTW, contrary to Harkin, not all local property tax revenues are spent on public education, far from it.

Of course, Harkin's own personal health insurance is subsidized by the very same taxpayers whom Obamacare is not only ripping off but giving a lesser standard of health care.

When is the old curmudgeon leftist retiring? His "new values" system is much closer to the Soviet Union's than America's, so let him enjoy retirement one of the socialist "paradises" toward which he's dragging us.

23 posted on 11/06/2013 8:00:51 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 11/06/2013 8:06:29 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: justiceseeker93; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Viennacon; AuH2ORepublican

Harkin’s seat is up next year and he IS retiring. It’s the first open seat in IA since 1974. We are stuck with 2nd tier candidates. The rat will be Rep. Bruce Braley.


25 posted on 11/06/2013 9:37:07 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: muir_redwoods; SunkenCiv; LibLieSlayer; liberalh8ter; NoLibZone; cripplecreek; madison10; Yaelle; ..
It never dawns on these leftist asshats that the US public school system they always compare obamacare to is ranked about 80th in the world and produces a hideous substandard product with gobs of money wasted.

As one who follows important public policy issues and debates fairly closely, this is really the first time I've heard a leftist (in this case, Harkin) compare the US public school system to Obamacare. Of course it's a foolish comparison, except that built-in failure is the operative theme of both. I've heard many more comparisons of Obamacare to auto insurance, which are also idiotic.

Now as to the US public school system being ranked 80th in the world, how do you compare school systems across dissimilar nations and cultures? I'd agree that the general quality of public education in the United States has slipped markedly in the last 40 years or so, but that's not really a function of the amounts of spending, but more the demographic fact that the students' IQs as a group are decreasing with time, due to dumber parents having more children than brighter parents, which is encouraged by the leftist Great Society social programs. Still, there are a few good public schools and some good students remaining, but they are diminishing in numbers with time. Public schools are failing in significant part because of government social and immigration policies which cause adverse demographic shifts in the student populations. Other countries, by and large, don't face these issues to nearly the same extent.

26 posted on 11/07/2013 10:30:21 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

I just called Florida Blue, and he tried to send me to the healthcare.gov site. When I said I didn’t want to go there, HE HUNG UP ON ME!

can you believe this cr*p?


27 posted on 11/07/2013 10:33:56 AM PST by left that other site (.)
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To: muir_redwoods; justiceseeker93
It never dawns on these leftist asshats that the US public school system they always compare obamacare to is ranked about 80th in the world and produces a hideous substandard product with gobs of money wasted.

That was my first thought. Holding up a horrendous failure as the model for our new health care system.

28 posted on 11/07/2013 10:39:13 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Measured in second grade, US students, of all ethnicities, compare favorably on tests of math and reading fluency and comprehension to other second year students in other countries. In such measures the US is usually near the top.

After ten years exposure to the US public school system, 12th graders in the US fall to somewhere in the 75th to 80th rank.

It’s not just the quality of the raw material, it’s the process and workmanship of the educational system.


29 posted on 11/07/2013 11:49:46 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Rusty0604
Weve had a Fundamental Tramsformation of the Perception....of America....In Many Quarters

Comrade Obama could not have blustered it any better than Harkin.




30 posted on 11/07/2013 2:30:51 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Rusty0604

As a youth in the 1930s I lived through the union movement in the USA with my mother being tossed betwixt and between union strike activities and need to work for a few dollars a week foe rent and food. I can see that unions accomplished a goal of making a workers toil part of the rewards system. However, I learned as time went on and especially during service in WWII and afterwards that unions had become places where thugs enjoyed being at the top of people organizations. Today I am a firm believer that unions of people in public employment are nothing more than bastions for public despots of social power and inordinate money paid. This also goes for all police, fire protection agencies as well as so called bureaucrats. Just think about the grand parades and money spent on such for death of one person by duty compared to the resources and money given to a funeral for a real military person killed in some out of the way place around the world.


31 posted on 11/07/2013 3:13:26 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

The union I worked with was a public employee union. The gleefully acknowledge among themselves their power to get what they want by funding politicians, school board members, etc., anyone they negotiate with, and the fact that they don’t have to worry about cost cutting like their brothers in a private union, because the gov’t will never go out of business and they can force taxes and regulations on the people. They have nothing but contempt for taxpayers and ordinary citizens.


32 posted on 11/07/2013 3:48:31 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks for the ping!


33 posted on 11/07/2013 7:07:43 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: muir_redwoods

“It never dawns on these leftist asshats that the US public school system they always compare obamacare to is ranked about 80th in the world and produces a hideous substandard product with gobs of money wasted.”

Hasn’t it dawned on anyone yet that to them, that’s a good thing?


34 posted on 11/10/2013 10:56:42 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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