Posted on 09/29/2013 12:57:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
The Republicans are colluding with the Democrats to “delay” Obamacare until January 2015 and thereby give the Obama regime a chance to smooth out the wrinkles so it “works right”. The delay will also keep the issue from hurting the rats too much during the coming year's 2014 mid-term election campaign.
Do some people actually believe that a "delay" is in any way a "win" for Republicans?
In return for giving the rats another year-plus to deepen the roots of their communist healthcare and get it working smoother, the Republicans will cave on the debt ceiling. What a deal.
Wow, are we ever being played.
I wrote it down on the back of your white flag. Check there.
Even the Fox News Players are against Cruz.
And then said: I am saying that that’s a drop in the bucket compared to what’s coming between now and next April 15th if it’s not delayed.
So what DO you mean? Care to clarify?
I'm sorry if that was confusing. In the context of our conversation I was answering your point of how many were feeling the effects now not making a statement on what I wished would happen.
And I asked you to find a link pertaining to that as I found nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
I didn't think it was necessary to establish the existence of gravity either.
You may be a mind reader but you just beat me to it. lol
Cruz and a handful of others are heroes in this battle.
Errr.blech..probably
And I do hope that you read the article that I linked. It was excellent.
Indeed. The Congress person who whips the R’s into disallowing congress-critters from insider trading will be my hero. I don’t see it happening soon.
It’s not the paycheck they hunker after, it’s the inside information that makes them millions.
BOTH sides of the aisle.
Thank you. I will take a look at it.
We ARE being played!
Thanks for posting, Lancey.
I'm not prettying up either party; I am, however, pointing out that there is an argument where the Republican party is worse. the Democratic party is somewhat honest in it's aims and goals, but the Republican Party is utterly dishonest. the Democratic Party says that some are non-people (the unborn) and thus see no real break in having "super-people" (pigs that are more equal) because, after all the born are superior to the unborn in their worldview. The Republican Party, on the other hand, will trumpet things like Justice and the Law applying to everyone… until the rubber meets the road and there is some power/influence that it would lose by pursuing Justice. (See Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the NSA, the IRS, abortion**, tax-reform, balancing the budget, financial accountability, gun control*, and limited government — what does the GOP DO on these issues besides talk?)
No, I'm not saying that the Democratic party is in any way good; but neither am I saying the Republican party is good either — what I am getting at is that there's this elevation of "our guy" [the Republican Party] as being good that's simply not the case (even when there are real arguments that "our guy" is worse).
Take a look at McCain [or Romney], as "the face of the Republican Party" — look at how they pandered to people pretending they weren't Democrats (their records and stances are pretty indistinguishable from Democrats)... and they were the ones anointed by the party. So, let me ask: what good is a Republican vote if the Republican in question is functionally indistinguishable from a Democrat? (If they are functionally indistinguishable, then every argument against Democrats [ideology-wise] applies to them as well.)
* - Gun control is an interesting case: people can point to the recent waves of defeats but when was the last time anyone really talked about cutting out the underlying laws, repealing the NFA and/or GCA? An excellent example of the Republican party claiming victory which was meaningless is the ending of the Assault Weapons Ban [Clinton era] and the reason is this: the AWB had a sunset-clause which automatically terminated the law, they had to literally do nothing to end the AWB.
** - The only real advance in the abortion front was the Partial Birth Abortion ban; I will concede that it was a victory… I will, however, ask if it was an effective victory, a significant victory. (Was it more of a feel-good legislation piece, or did it have a positive impact on the problem?)
Apparently it is news to the Quisling GOPe, Boehner supporters on these threads.
Thank you.
IMHO, a more substantial risk lies in Obama and Clinton maneuvering to overthrow the US government.
Ever since Clinton left the Presidency, the last month of his Presidency, he focused quiet envoys into Mexico. Immediately prior to this, he and Hillary were jaunting about Vietnam wearing communist garb. These were times where the thinking of a leader is generally focused on posterity and/or his future legacy with the world.
Obama came to power when it just as easily could have been Hillary, neither of which are very competent politicians, but they are well practiced liars and of the most heinous type of personality. Obama, if simply a comparative politic within the Democratic Socialist club, would if anything, separate the Clintons from power, as they already had held a 2-term Presidency.
Instead, it appears Obama and the Clintons are working the same agenda, with a 15-30 year track record.
If they sincerely believe the US financial markets have been milked for what they are worth, they might simply be leveraging the foreign powers to sell out our remaining real assets,..namely our land and people.
IMHO, they pose a greater risk of fomenting a fifth column and inviting mayhem within to promote foreign seizure at will.
>>Addendum/summary:
Saying we’re being “played” is both putting it gently and massive understatement. <<
I believe the proper phrase is, “We are being raped!”
I'm going to search for that article.
Obama & Reid give in -— big tactical win but not a strategic win until killed.
That’s why the GOPe is so hostile to the TEA Party and why Rove did everything he could to undercut conservative candidates even if his chosen one lost the primary.
Rove has become poison for the GOP and most of the party drinks deeply.
“Tao” is bullshit to this Flyover FReeper.
Say it plain, or expect to “Tao” alone.
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