Posted on 09/23/2013 8:03:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Apple announced that it sold over 9 million iPhones during the opening weekend of sales. This is much better than analysts expected. Analysts were forecasting 5 million at the low end, and 7.75 million at the high end.
The stock is up ~6% on the news.
Last year Apple sold 5 million iPhone 5s during the opening weekend, so this is a huge increase.
The new iPhone drew huge, enthusiastic crowds and long lines when it was released last Friday, despite the fact that there were no external changes to the device. Part of the reason there were big lines is that the company didn't allow pre-orders of the new iPhone 5S. Another part of the reason: People like iPhones.
Apple is mostly sold out of the iPhone 5S, which suggests this number would have been even higher if Apple had enough phones in stock.
Apple's 9 million units include both iPhone 5S and iPhone 5Cs. Apple didn't break out how many units of the iPhone 5S it sold or how many iPhone 5Cs it sold. Total iPhone sales were likely boosted by the new 5C model, which didn't exist last year.
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I am not saying they didn’t sell a lot of 5S’s I’m saying the 5S sold out so folks are buying 5C’s that might have wanted the 5S so the overall 5C numbers of sales will likely be inflated some.
In my younger days I loved to hack things, still do from time to time, but at the end of the day I want something that just works.
Yes its neat you can make your droid do this thing my phone can’t, but I am not going to spend an afternoon hacking around with it to make it happen.
Just work, that’s all I ask. With iPhone this is never an issue.
Doesn’t mean Apples perfect, I was cursing them up and down the last few days as I have to rewrite perfectly working code because of arbitrary changes they decided to make in IOS7.
There are some various things out there, phonegap and such but they don’t get rid of coding, just let you write your app in HTML/CSS/Javascript and package it up
Personally I write native for both platforms, its more work, but far better results IMHO.
I would think there probably are some tools to help minimize coding etc but since I just do it bare (or as bare as it can get) I really don’t keep up with that stuff.
For someone with as much experience as you claim should know, Android is the OS (like iOS). Droid is a motorola trade mark.
And for someone who claims objectivity, you sure are doing a good imitation of a apple-holic.
I might short a lil bit of Apple if it goes up tomorrow...I don't know technology...but I know a bit about the market...*S*
Do your own DD!
But you're prolly not workin...Right?
Almost 2 hours a day on the phone?! What an incredible waste of time.
If you are just using a smart phone for making phone calls, you are wasting your money.
Which brings me back to my original question. How is this phone any better at making pohone calls that it is worth upgrading?
I still use my Motorola Razor flip phone (Which I bought ONLY because my old old nokia finally died). There is far too much life to be lived to have my face buried in a phone all day.
Besides that the cost is unacceptable. They have taken a service that should cost around $20 per month tops and have people paying near (or over) $100 per month! Truly insane
I've found no compelling reason whatsoever to have any more functionality than being able to call someone and have them answer. (and even that is only for emergency type situations. Spending a bunch of time casually chatting on the phone is useless.)
(Yes, I know, I'm old school. I drive my daughter crazy. I don't even text. I figure if it's important enough they'll call me. And if they won't call me obviosuly it's not important)
Look, you can keep repeating this mantra all you want. But, all it does is show you are missing the point.
Mobile phones have evolved way beyond just making phone calls. If that's all you do, then a simple flip phone meets your needs. But, your needs no longer drive the mobile phone market.
Some days, I use my phone for 5 minutes. But, for others I may use it all day, especially for email. I don't carry my laptop from meeting to meeting, but I have to deal with high-priority issues that arise, or someone will be waiting all day for my response.
Phone calls can be very disruptive. I can't take one without bothering the people around me. I can't make one without doing so, either. But, I can email or text to deal with both mundane and important things, without imposing my life on everyone around me. You may think that's a waste of time, but I consider it to be polite.
With all the applications that are available, people use their phones for things we couldn't even imagine 10 years ago. You can choose to stay in the past decade, but most other mobile phone users have moved on. You've made your choice: let everyone else make theirs, and stop whining.
These same friends are mostly in debt up to their ears (two are looking into bankruptcy) yet they buy a new phone because its Hip and Cool. I also notice many of them have Obama stickers on their cars.
Most of the iPhone buyers I know are akin to the kids that must have the hot new video game the second it hits the shelves.
I just don't get it. They claim it makes them more productive and they can keep in touch and blah blah blah and laugh at me because I refuse to buy one.
Yet my property is paid for in full and within 3 years my Business debt will be paid in full. (I could do so now but my debt is financed under 3% and I still have many investments that pay well over that still and as they finally peter out I cash them in and pay off the debt) But these folks live paycheck to paycheck and have even asked to borrow money till they get their next paycheck.
I guess they can keep laughing at me and when they go bankrupt and can't pay their phone bill I'll offer them a few bucks for their iPhones that don't work anymore because they have no service...
then I'll sell them on eBay...
hahahah
I know very well the difference and if you want to get technical which you seem to want to do droid is actually a trademark of lucasfilms or lucasarts licensed by Motorola for their products.
Your attempt at claiming my shorthand shows a lack of knowledge or appleholic ism is nonsense.
I have been doing have development in Java since it’s pre alpha days, the language upon which android apps are built. I would love to say that android is the better OS and had equivalent products and while it has vastly improved over the years it is still to this day not on par from a usability and stability perspective. Believe me Objective C is an obtuse language that I personally feel should have died a deserved death in the 80s, but for good or ill it’s what you have to use to develop native iphone apps.
With nearly 20 years of java development under my belt I should be exclaiming the virtues of android, but as much as I may like to say that it’s just not true, at least not from a user and stability experience. Yes the openness of the OS means I can do things I can’t under IOS but it also means I’m going to have to deal with every damn fragmentation out there when my product goes live, or better yet deal with a new issue with every new device thaT comes out.
I state my opinion as someone who is actively developing and earning money of both platforms and been developing software commercially for nearly 20 year, and I can say unequivocally that when judged from the simple criteria “it just works” apple wins the smart phone OS battle hands down.
If I ever had any bias about apple it was nearly 15 years of those 20 hating them, and as a pure developer the company pisses me off routinely when they just arbitrarily change something etc etc. And don’t even get me started about my opinion of objective c. But despite all that they have the better consumer option from “it just works” perspective.
Texting or emailing while you are in the presence of someone else is most rude (I can understand if you're on a bus or something where you are surrounded by people but not with them, but if you are in a meeting, at dinner or where ever with someone, then your attention should be on them, not on your phone.) I've been trying to get my daughter to realize this for weeks. People today have become so incredibly socially rude.
You've made your choice: let everyone else make theirs, and stop whining.
I'm not whining, I'm asking. What makes the Iphone 5S any better of a phone than any previous cell phone. Even if you include the secondary uses of it, how is it worth the extra money. Did the Iphone 5 not do these things? (and if so are those things really worth that much money?)
Or is it just another scheme by apple to separate 'people' from their money?
If people want to throw their money away that's fine. I just don't understand why they would do such a thing.
(Obviously I'm not a cell phone fan. I'm also not an apple fan at all. Their stuff doesn't work (unless of course you want to work exactly as Steve Jobs wants you to work and no other way). But then I have the same complaint about the last couple releases of windows and almost all other Microsoft applications)
You've never been in one of my meetings. Most of the time, I'm sitting in a conference room listening to a conference call where two people are engaged in an argument. Yes, I know: it's not a productive use of time, but I don't have a choice.
What makes the Iphone 5S any better of a phone than any previous cell phone.
I posted a few examples in my first post: the new camera and flash are important to people that use it for photography and video. The new CPU and GPU is twice as fast, which means that both apps and the phone run faster or smoother. The different is reportedly noticeable from previous versions, but that doesn't mean the previous ones are unusable -- yet.
There's also a new low power chip that monitors accelerometer and gyroscopic sensors, so the main processor can go to sleep. That saves the battery, and enables apps that monitor physical activity.
Much has been said about the fingerprint sensor, but I don't find it to be that interesting. They have historically been easy to defeat, although this one may be a bit more resistant. However, I'm not even sure I'll use it.
The baseband chips support more LTE bands, which means the iPhone will support more LTE service world-wide. That may not mean much to you now, but at some point in the future it will translate into better phone calls, if your service provider ever supports VoLTE (Voice over LTE). It's still in the lab at the moment, but if they ever work out the issues (mostly with battery life), a voice call will have much higher fidelity.
Even if you include the secondary uses of it, how is it worth the extra money.
That's a judgement call for each person to make. However, the truth is: if your service provider is Sprint, Verizon, or AT&T, you are continuing to pay for a new phone, whether you want to or not. Once your contract ends, you continue to pay the same price (and a contract subsidy payment of about $20). You might as well get a new phone.
Of course if you are on T-Mobile or a pre-paid carrier, your monthly service cost doesn't include a contract subsidy. T-Mobile, Straight Talk, etc. offer to "finance" the phone over two years, but the payment ends after that.
thank you. As I said earlier, I’ve had my phone forever and haven’t had a contract obligation for about 7 years now.
Is it pre-paid, or post-paid monthly?
If it's post-paid monthly, then you have been missing out. You can at least buy a new non-smart phone, sometimes for "free", if you are willing to commit for another 1 to 2 years.
An alternative: it's been a long time since I did it, but on a couple of occasions, I committed to an additional 1-year contract, kept my existing phone, and AT&T (then, it was Cingular) applied a credit of $100-$150 to my account. It paid for service for a couple of months.
As long as AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint continue to charge you the same price on and off contract, it's cost-effective to sign up for at least a short contract, and either replace your phone or get the credit.
Just damaged my phone and am forced to get another.
My main requirements are compatibility with MS Outlook without additional software, and
long battery life
good telephone sound
Iphone 5s, HTC One, Samsung 4 or other?
The iPhone mail client works with Outlook Mobile Access. No additional software is needed. I believe the Android phones have similar capability.
long battery life
I do OK with battery, but your mileage may vary.
good telephone sound
I don't talk much on mine. I typically use a headset or handsfree unit when I do.
Iphone 5s, HTC One, Samsung 4 or other?
If you get an Android phone, I strongly recommend one that has an established and timely upgrade/update process. I wouldn't buy one that is "orphaned" as soon as you buy it: no upgrade, no security updates, no bug fixes, etc.
A lot of the Android phones have an update/upgrade process, but it is really slow. Google releases a new version, or an update, and the phone manufacturer don't release "their" version available for a long time.
You seem to be arguing for communism (apple, closed system) over free markets (android, open source).
If you trust the govt, you will tend to trust apple.
I never questioned your knowledge, just your judgement.
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