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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 38 SEPTEMBER 20, 2013
Free Republic | September 13, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 09/20/2013 12:16:53 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; garden; gardening; hobby
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To: Marcella
It depends on what you mean by 'ready'. I'll be using them from the time the green tops are about 4" long, until they make full-size onions that can be stored at every stage in-between. Onions in some form or other are a 'most of the year' crop for me.

Yes, I think those are the Utah onions.

/johnny

281 posted on 09/23/2013 11:42:47 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mlizzy

Nice looking rose. Reading through the info, reminded me that our Rosa Rugosa came through last year’s drought without ever watering it.

The rose hips have many nutrients: iron, calcium, Vitamin E, selenium, manganese, b-complex vitamins, trace amounts of magnesium potassium, and sulfur, in addition to Vitamin C. So you’ll get some useful stuff anyway.

The vitamin C is already 20 to 40% more than an orange. So If you cook it for 10-20 minutes, you lose more than 50%, but you still have some. Maybe you should drink 2 glasses of wine just to be sure.LOL

I guess you could always just add a few crushed ones after you open the wine, just to add to the Vitamin C if you want. As long as you don’t have the symptoms of Vitamin C deficiency, I wouldn’t worry about it.

You could always just make a smoothie using rose hips as one of the ingredients. Another thing to remember, is that dandelion greens also have Vitamin C and other good stuff. They tend to grow without effort on your part, and are one of the first things to green up in the spring.

You can also grow green peppers indoors, and get some vitamin c that way. One green pepper has 291% of the RDA for vitamin c. An orange only has 116% RDA.

I like tea, and lots of the teas that I like have rose hips as the first or second ingredient, so I wanted to have rose hips to be able to make my own herbal teas with the rose hips.

Since I don’t use boiling water or steep very long, I figure I am getting some of my vitamin c that way, and some in other ways. I love to put green pepper rings on my salad, and I also love stir fry with green peppers and onions etc.


282 posted on 09/23/2013 11:59:47 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“ready” meant you start eating them.


283 posted on 09/23/2013 12:03:57 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

What type of winter wheat are you growing?


284 posted on 09/23/2013 12:07:38 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella; sockmonkey

It was 50 degrees here at 6am. So it’s about time to repot a tomato and pepper to bring indoors.


285 posted on 09/23/2013 12:09:23 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: reed13k

I love that website. LOL


286 posted on 09/23/2013 12:10:18 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

You can also use onion sets. Hubby plants onion sets in the spring for fall harvest. They look kinda like a garlic clove except they have the same coloring as a yellow onion.


287 posted on 09/23/2013 12:14:35 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Hard white. I don't intend to harvest it. Just till it under for green manure.

/johnny

288 posted on 09/23/2013 12:16:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Understood.


289 posted on 09/23/2013 12:17:24 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
I'd rather use rye, but I don't have any, and I'm not paying for any right now. So wheat it is.

/johnny

290 posted on 09/23/2013 12:19:13 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yes, I like rye. I have enough left over from last year to use this year.


291 posted on 09/23/2013 12:29:40 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Just started a 7 gallon batch of compost tea. I'll let the pump run for 24 hours to let lots of the good microbes reproduce, and then on to the newly opened ground with it. The microbes should be happy. I gave them everything they need to party. Plenty of molasses, liquid seaweed, rainwater, and oxygen.

They may have hangovers in the morning, but there should be billions more of them. ;)

/johnny

292 posted on 09/23/2013 12:46:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mlizzy

***”How long, do you think/know, the greenhouse (at the following link) would extend our growing season?”**

Maybe 2 months. It looks really short, height wise, so I am guessing you’re not thinking of tomatoes in it.
Here’s an article about Greenhouse Gardening in Chicago:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2002-09-20/business/0209200072_1_master-gardener-greenhouse-effect-grow

Here’s a step by step for the one I’m building..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DKlXs8iov0

My thought for you is that if you have an outside wall-garage, house, brick wall...You could do something like a half hoop..cattle panel, cut in half..then sitting against the house, or a brick wall, that puts out some heat..Then you could skin the cattle panel with 6 ml plastic, or maybe even hang a bulb that puts out some heat at night in there.

It’d have the height, 6 feet 2 “, but only half the width, and half the price..aobut 75 bucks for the little greenhouse experiment.

I am hoping you can visualize what I’m tryig to describe, instead of a quonset hut shape, it’s be half a quonset hut shape..The place you buy the cattle panel ..like Tractor Supply could probably cut in in half for you..

Once you get your hands on some cattle panels, or even the smaller hog panels, you will think of all kinds of things that you could do with them.

My next project, using hog panels, is going to be a “time out” cage for my Mother in Law when she criticizes my cooking and housekeeping! Just kidding, I don’t have a Mother-in-Law.


293 posted on 09/23/2013 1:17:25 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: greeneyes; All
Grandson was here for lunch today and the 3 bear cubs came out of the woods and climbed the fence to finish off the Pear tree…

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Then 20 minutes Lady Bender opens the door to the garage and the 3 if them had dumped over 3 of the buckets with various bird seed and were chowing down…

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294 posted on 09/23/2013 3:23:57 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: tubebender

Great pics. This is why we stopped feeding the birds in our yard.


295 posted on 09/23/2013 3:25:28 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tubebender
I have recipes for bear. Just sayin'.

/johnny

296 posted on 09/23/2013 3:37:41 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sockmonkey
My next project, using hog panels, is going to be a “time out” cage for my Mother in Law when she criticizes my cooking and housekeeping! Just kidding, I don’t have a Mother-in-Law.
Ruh-roh... Good one!

Thanks for the video, etc.; I did look it over, but I'd need a knowledgable helper... and maybe a few years decades shaved off my age too! :)
297 posted on 09/23/2013 4:09:03 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Marcella; JRandomFreeper; sockmonkey; All

I am interested in herbal medicines/gardens/etc as well, and when we were at the book store a few days ago, I picked up these two books:

Homegrown Herbs by Hartung
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Homegrown%20Herbs%20hartung

and

Herb Gardening for the Midwest by Knapke and Peters
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Herb+Gardening+for+the+Midwest&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3AHerb+Gardening+for+the+Midwest

Why I bought them is because not only do they tell a little about herb gardening methods, a little bit is also given on pests, good bugs, and profiles for quite a number of individual herbs. Some instructions for preparations are also given. What cinched them for me was the information each had for stevia. I figured that if both books were as accessible with that info (which IMHO they are) then they would be good references for other herbs as well.

Such things in the herb profiles cover what kind of shade/sun, tips, harvesting/processing, uses. “Homegrown”
also includes companion and complementary planting, medicinal benefits, and parts used.

That isn’t an exhaustive review, but might be enough to see if it is as interesting for you as it was for me!


298 posted on 09/23/2013 4:25:33 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: tubebender

Amazing! What state are you in?


299 posted on 09/23/2013 4:25:41 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Marcella

LOL! I understand!


300 posted on 09/23/2013 4:43:19 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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