Posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
Partial Transcript of the Mark Levin Show aired live on Monday, August 19, 2013
[start at 0:26 of the podcast recording]
Hello everybody, Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-3811, 877-381-3811.
Mark Levin: Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow! You guys, open your microphones a second. Thousands of people at both booksignings. Wasn’t that unbelievable?
Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.
Mark Levin: And the people were just spectacular, weren’t they? Except for one guy in New Jersey which I’ll talk about later.
Staffer: [chuckles]
Mark Levin: This… this birther stuff is way, way out of contr…”Now Ted Cruz” … I swear I almost hit this guy… “Ted Cruz is not a citizen!” No, he’s born to an American mother, no he’s born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, they’re not Americans. They’re not natural-born Americans. I just thought you’d wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever… None! But it’s, it’s just amazing! Absolutely stunning! But we had so many wonderful people, and let me add, all races, both genders… I don’t know the sexual preferences, that wasn’t a requirement to say hello…young people, elderly, middle age people. A particularly young crowd, yeah, we had dogs come too, everybody so well behaved, and uh, it was a pleasure. In New York, we were there about four-and-a-half hours, in New Jersey about five, five-and-a-half hours, and I wanted to be respectful to everybody, so… I just want to thank you all, and this Saturday, Tyson’s Corner, Virginia, at Barnes and Noble. I should add, if you want to see the crowd that was at New York, Mr. Producer went down the line, and this was early on, this, this line kept growing and growing throughout the day…you can go look at uh MarkLevinShow.com on our website, as well as the social sites MarkLevinShow Facebook, MarkLevinShow Twitter. Um, Christians, Coptic Christians are being wiped out in Egypt. Their churches are being burned to the ground….
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Mark Levin: Alright, lets go to uh, Steve in New York, the great WABC, go!
Steve: Great one, it’s great to talk to you, what an honor.
Mark Levin: My honor, thank you, my friend.
Steve: Oh, I got a great story for you, I loved your uh, Hannity special, I enjoyed it very much, I listened to it three times over the weekend…
Mark Levin: Oh, thank you.
Steve: …I got my wife, I got my wife to tape for me, or TIVO it, and she watched it. And she really enjoyed it. She’s not big on politics or anything, and she gets sick of hearing me talk about it, but it was funny ‘cause she said “He is so calm, Steve.” He was, she was trying to do a little wifey/husband training? And…
Mark Levin: Uh huh.
Steve: she said “He is so calm, and he gets his point across. He didn’t raise his voice, or get upset…
Mark Levin: [chuckles]
Steve: …or anything!”
Mark Levin: [breaks out into laughter]
Steve: …and I laughed so hard. I said “How do you, uh, where do you think I learned how to yell?” [laughs] “I just listen to Mark.” And she knows you’re my hero, I go around quotin’ ya, and tellin’ everybody to listen to ya, and…
Mark Levin: Well, that’s great.
Steve: she just … to get me to calm down a little, and I said you just need to listen to Mark. [laughs]
Mark Levin: Well, thank you, uh…well listen, you know what, this is called passion, just remind her it’s passion, you know, and um…what was truly exceptional about the Hannity program, number one, the man has enormous class and decency, and number two, he was asking me questions because he wanted me to inform the public about what I’d written, and to engage the studio audience. And notice we didn’t have a bunch of left-wing bomb throwers just yelling and talking over people. There were conversations actually occurring, did you notice that?
Steve: Yes, there was no crazy, I mean a lot of times he’s got the left wingers on there, and it’s just, kind, it’s almost funny to watch, but that was so interesting and…and it didn’t get me upset, and it just, I just wanted to listen to it over and over and absorb every second of it, and every bit of information, it…it’s just brilliant, Mark, I, you know I hope when um…we’ve got President Cruz, he has the wisdom to make you his chief of staff or vice-president.
Mark Levin: No, no no no no no. And he’s got a great chief of staff, by the way. No, I…I do what I do, and uh, and he will do a great job should he be president. Thank you for your call my friend. And uh, I’m so sick of these birthers. I was going to tell you about this, uh, incident. Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until…and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line. Um…but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I don’t know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says “You were wrong about this, you were wrong about”, and honestly I, I, I didn’t have time to read it, and I’ll go back and check it, if I’m wrong about it I’ll fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when you’re going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so I’m going to check it out, I just haven’t had time. And then he goes, he says uh “And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president. He’s not a natural-born Citizen.” And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but he’s born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesn’t that make him a natural-born Ci… “No, but he was in Canada when he was born!” Okay, but she wasn’t Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen! That’s not a constitutional issue, that’s an interpretive issue… or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution. So, the face of the Constitution isn’t terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and there’s a lot of easy cases. So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was…he was a nutjob. And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that? Is this, is this sort of the way you…you excite yourself or something? No. So, I just want you folks to know who like Ted Cruz. I…I assume they’re going to do this to Rubio, or some of these other people too, whether you like ‘em or not for president I’m just making a point, but now this has become an entire industry. And of course [chuckles] Ted Cruz [laughs], he immediately issued today or yesterday his long form birth certificate. Now, some of this is probably coming from the left. So now they’re the birthers. But some of it’s coming from others, too. People just get obsessed, or conspiratorial, and there’s no end to it, on a matter like this, and there’s nothing I can say or point to that’s going to change their mind. But in my view there’s no doubt about it that he’s eligible for president, should he choose to run, just as I believe McCain was eligible for president, when he ran. So…that’s my opinion! You may not like it… But what particularly bothered me about this guy…he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know…listening, watching and so forth. I’m a big boy; I’ve seen this and a thousand times worse. But he was quite obnoxious. He’s the only one…oh no there was another guy, had a prob, wha wha, he what…he had a problem, he was screaming upstairs, I don’t know what he was screamin’ about. It was kind of eventful there in New Jersey. No, there wasn’t anything like that in New York, was there boys? [Staff: No. Peaceful in ji…you know in Long Island] It was peaceful on Long Island! [chuckles] But is was peaceful in New Jersey, too. It really, really was. It was just terrific. If you could have seen that line, well, actually you can. We have the uh video, and this is just the start of the day with the line. It got longer and longer at uh… at Book Review in Long Island if you want to take a look on MarkLevinShow.com or MarkLevi…oh there is now? The…the New Jersey line? Okay. Both lines. On MarkLevinShow.com, are they both on the social sites too? Or…just the Long Island. But we’ll put the other one up later so some of you can see yourselves, too. Alright. GoldLine!
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(further information and videos at: http://queenofliberty.com/2013/08/14/mark-levin-rolls-out-his-new-book/)
BTW my 4th great grandparents were both born in the US of parents also born here..
fully American. Born in America of American parents and meeting all legal qualifications under law to produce an American citizen baby when my 4th gggp were born in NY state...
My 4th gggp had children born in Canada...
My 3rd ggf was born in Canada in 1797...thus an American citizen...
He married a lady born in Vermont in 1815 of US born parents and grandparents..
again we have 2 US citizen parents...
their children were born in Canada...
My 2nd gggf was born in Canada in 1833...an American citizen...
Eligible to be POTUS...
;)
You're the one who mentioned your citizenship status. You're the one who brought it up. I mentioned it because you brought it up. If you don't want people to mention your citizenship status, then don't bring it up in conversation. THINK!
Here’s the current relevant law of the land that courts will apply to Senator Cruz’ birth situation, if he decides to run for president:
8 U.S.C. § 1401
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(g) “a person born OUTSIDE the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents ONE of whom is an ALIEN, and the OTHER a CITIZEN of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was PHYSICALLY PRESENT in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than FIVE YEARS, at least two of which were after attaining the age of FOURTEEN YEARS: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date;”
Spot on, Larry - Moe and Curly
No it doesn’t. It recognizes already existing citizenship.
That’s why it says:
***SEC. 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the
United States at birth:
(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof;***
So, if it “GRANTS” citizenship to (7), then it “GRANTS” citizenship to (1), YOU and all others who are born in the good ole US of A.
You’re just arguing to argue now, Ray.
Thank you....
that makes me an American citizen at birth...
My great grandmother was born overseas of 1 US citizen parent so she was an American citzen at birth...
her daughter my grandmother was born overseas of 1 US citizen parent, her mother, so she also was an American citizen at birth...
My dad was born overseas of 1 US citIzen parent, his mother, so he too was an American citzen...
I was born overseas of i US citzen parent, my father, so I was an American citzen at birth...
I did get naturalized but that was just for form etc...
;)
Wrong.
You’ve cited US Code which “grants” citizenship based upon certain circumstances.
Natural born citizenship is not gained through any sort of codification, it is “natural” by definition, and requires no law for it to be attained.
The law specifically states that Section 301, subsection (a), grants citizenship.
You haven’t read 1790 and 1795.
1790 says those born to US citizens overseas are natural born.
1795 expands on that and says those born to US citizens overseas are citizens by RIGHT and by DESCENT.
In other words, it is their RIGHT to be a citizen and it is because they are BORN to an already citizen.
Also, the Constitution is not amended by putting into effect the powers granted to the Congress in Art 1, Sec 8. The last paragraph of Sec 8 says that Congress can make all laws necessary to carry out their powers.
So, Congress saw fit to pass those laws to carry out their power to oversee naturalization. To oversee naturalization you have to address both who needs to be naturalized and who doesn’t need to be.
Cruz falls into the category of one who does not need to be naturalized. That is because his citizens was BY RIGHT at Birth and BY DESCENT at birth.
No it doesn’t. I’m looking at it.
Direct your attention to § 301(a)(2)
Pub. L. 82-414 § 301(a)(2) specifically states that § 301(a) grants citizenship.
I believe I was pointing out that my son though born in the US and therefore an American citizen he was not NBC eligible to be POTUS because I was not an Amertican citzen at the time...
I was not naturalized until AFTER he was born...
but his father was an American citizen when our son was born...
If you fit this, then you are a US citizen at birth without any action by anybody:
***(a)SEC. 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of w’hom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who,
prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States ‘ or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less ‘ than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age “ of fourteen years: Provided^ That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements “ of this paragraph.
***
Strictly speaking, the fact of dual citizenship does not negative one’s natural-born Citizen status.
Theoretically, at least, it could be that one’s grandparent’s foreign citizenship status is enough to net that person unwanted status as a citizen of a foreign country. There are some countries starving for population and might try to repopulate their country in this manner.
But practically speaking, this is not an issue, as the benefit of restricting our president to an individual born in our country to parents who were our country’s citizens is putting at least one generation of American citizens between our president or presidential candidate, and any possible foreign allegience. To boot, no country whose laws confer citizenship at birth based on the citizenship status of one’s grandparent could never successfully claim an individual as their own over the claim of a country of which the individual in question is a natural-born Citizen, in the event the issue ever came to a head between the two countries in question.
But I wanted to be clear that dual citizenship is not the actual issue. A natural-born Citizen and the country they are associated like hand in glove, and no third-generation claim to that individual by a foreign country would ever hold up in an international law court.
Thanks Timber Rattler. I’m not trying to bait anyone, frankly. Levin’s behavior on the Cruz ineligibility issue is astonishing, particularly since he holds himself out as one who would uphold the Constitution as written. Did you notice he has rejected original meaning jurisprudence, which is slowly but steadily (and appropriately) displacing all other means for interpreting constitutional terminology?
I’m sure you and your children are all the salt of the earth and I’m pleased to call you all fellow citizens of my country. Your logic and reasoning are both quite sound.
Please see my reply re SCOTUS’s 1875 Minor v. Happersett decision to another commenter. Thanks.
RXSID, you are correct. Congress has the power to make individuals citizens who are not natural-born Citizens. The latter are citizens by virtue of Natural Law and need no statute of Congress to demonstrate their rightful place in our polity. For what it’s worth, The 14th Amendment also did nothing to the definition of NBC.
The idea you reject is actually logical, right and true.
Cruz is showing himself to be an essential American, I agree.
Let’s put him on the Supreme Court, ASAP.
An archway in the halls of the Supreme Court of Georgia states: Though the heavens may fall, let justice be done.
Hit a grand slam with two outs in the bottom of the ninth and win the game in a walk-off by one run. But fail to touch first base and the other team need merely tag the base with the ball, and you are out, the game is lost.
True constitutional conservatives have no patience for either party abusing the Constitution, continuing a constitutional canard, or failing to restore and enforce the original meaning of the document. I love Cruz. He can’t be president.
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