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Laois 'bog body' said to be world's oldest
The Irish Times ^ | Friday, August 2, 2013 | Eoin Burke-Kennedy

Posted on 08/23/2013 6:12:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

The mummified remains of a body found in a Laois bog two years ago have been found to date back to 2,000BC, making it the oldest "bog body" discovered anywhere in the world.

The 4,000-year-old remains, which predate the famed Egyptian pharaoh Tutankhamun by nearly 700 years, are those of a young adult male.

He is believed to have met a violent death in some sort of ritual sacrifice.

The body was unearthed in the Cúl na Móna bog in Cashel in 2011 by a Bord na Móna worker operating a milling machine.

Initially, experts thought it dated from the Iron Age period (500BC-400AD), placing it on a par with similar finds in other Irish bogs.

However, radiocarbon tests on the body; the peat on which the body was lying; and a wooden stake found with the body, date the body to the early Bronze Age, around 2,000BC...

Eamonn Kelly, keeper of Irish antiquities at the National Museum of Ireland, said previously the earliest bog body discovered in Ireland dated to around 1,300BC but "Cashel man" substantially predates this period, making one of the most significant finds in recent times.

He said the remains are those of a young adult male which were placed in a crouched position and covered by peat, probably on the surface of the bog.

The man's arm was broken by a blow and there were deep cuts to his back which appear to have been inflicted by a blade, which indicate a violent death, Mr Kelly said.

Unfortunately, the areas that would typically be targeted in a violent assault, namely the head, neck and chest, were damaged by the milling machine when the body was discovered, making it impossible to determine the exact cause of death.

(Excerpt) Read more at irishtimes.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; ancientnavigation; bookofinvasions; fartyshadesofgreen; genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; ireland; thebookofinvasions
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To: Last Dakotan

Milling machine is Irish for Backhoe I’d wager.


21 posted on 08/24/2013 8:34:51 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Bigg Red; blam; Kenny Bunk; SunkenCiv

The textiles found with the Bog People of Windover, shows they were NOT primitive people— so many weave designs.

At :58 through 6:20 plus on this youtube is on the textiles discovered, their rapid decomposition, and the help of the genius who developed paralene for the Titanic, to permanently perserve for study all the fiber fabrics, a Bruce Humphrey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbayBEbIEwc

Ingenuity, genius— what made and can still make America great.


22 posted on 08/24/2013 8:54:02 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SunkenCiv

perserve=preserve.

On a side note here... went back through the Anasazi story where Dr. Turner was raked over the coals by the “rousseau-Indians were so pure” crowd of PC Indian history revisionists, because he proved cannabilism in that cultural time period.

They assumed the claims were the Anasazi were the cannibals. No, later work (proving the cannabilism by analysing petrified pooh with human muscle tissue in them) showed someone else was eating the Anasazi.
Enter the Toltec. The architecture of Chaco Canyon mimics the “ball fields” of the olmec/toltec culture of competition and death and.... cannabilism.

The Anasazi moved up on the mountain sides because of FEAR of these animals. Then, within 200 years.... they were ALL gone because of real climate change, and starvation.
Chilling stuff. What would be the modern equivalent of such tectonic shifts in culture and survival of civilization? Maybe an EMP pulse weapon delivered by 8th Century islamofascists or their proxys.... from Mexico across an open border. Ok, too much coffee, a mois.


23 posted on 08/24/2013 9:17:59 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
I think they are same as ours...

Here is one for sale online outside Dublin

24 posted on 08/24/2013 9:38:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: popdonnelly

Yes, and I suspect this poor fellow may be a bit more closely related.


25 posted on 08/24/2013 9:45:58 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: SunkenCiv

What I would like to see is DNA sequencing of THESE Titusville, FL Windover bog people vs. “celtic” bog people of this Laois find. We might be surprised to learn....shock of shocks (not— see: Kennewick Man) that so called Europeans (maybe— more precisely Celtic peoples as in most of the Celtic migration— Gaul to Spanish peninsula to Ireland to Scotland) were already in N. America when the “land bridge” “native-Americans” crossed over from Siberia.

The genetics of all this is freaking out the PC crowd and the PC industry of native-American “here first” claims. You know, the indian casinos then are just political payoff for the “genocide” from the “whites”. When what ought to happen is we find descendents from the European genetic tribes that these “native Americans” wiped out in THEIR genocide, and uh- give them the casinos LOL!!.

There is no imprimatur to do anything like this, politically— far better for the dems to advocate open immigration and the creation of Aztlan from a “pure” toltec/olmec heritage of damned cannibals who wiped out the Anasazi. No problem for dems and rinos who specialize in cannibalization— they eat their own especially targeting the dwindling middle class. Rant off— no more coffee LOL.


26 posted on 08/24/2013 9:49:53 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: wardaddy

Yeah, the road grinders for re-surface re-using of asphalt. But how far down to discover a bog body 2k years old?


27 posted on 08/24/2013 9:59:18 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
"The genetics of all this is freaking out the PC crowd and the PC industry of native-American “here first” claims"

Vintage Skulls

"The oldest human remains found in the Americas were recently "discovered" in the storeroom of Mexico's National Museum of Anthropology. Found in central Mexico in 1959, the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old. They pre-date the Clovis culture by a couple thousand years, adding to the growing evidence against the Clovis-first model for the first peopling of the Americas.

"Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans."

28 posted on 08/24/2013 10:45:36 AM PDT by blam
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To: John S Mosby
Interesting Read:

The Zuni Enigma

29 posted on 08/24/2013 10:54:47 AM PDT by blam
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To: John S Mosby

That was a great series, thanks for posting it.


30 posted on 08/24/2013 4:01:25 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: John S Mosby

Thanks for that information.

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Ingenuity, genius— what made and can still make America great.

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So true.


31 posted on 08/24/2013 4:05:43 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: John S Mosby

Probably will get done, I hope you’re right about that.

The Celts’ ancestors were in Central Asia 2000 BC; the Book of Invasions used to be pooh-poohed, until the archaeological record confirmed one of the burial practices attributed to one of the book’s groups, and in the right order in the strata.

This practice of human sacrifice and dumping the body in the bog may have moved from west to east, i.e., one of the pre-Celtic population layers in the British Isles may have influenced others some way or other — the Danes have found bog bodies dating from about 500 bc to 500 ad, actually at least one more recent and possibly an identifiable historic person.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/1642165/posts?page=80#80


32 posted on 08/24/2013 4:41:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Last Dakotan

I was trying to figure-out how one would unearth a body using one of those; in my experience they are bolted to the floor in large buildings.


33 posted on 08/24/2013 4:47:50 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: John S Mosby

I am ignorant about milling machines
I always thought of them as machinist stationary tools

I always called them cold planers or gator planers due to the road back they leave behind

I have bought the refuse topcoat for paving to mix with crusher run and roll out


34 posted on 08/24/2013 7:59:34 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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