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Confessions of an Ex-Liberal Gun Owner – Part II – A Rude Awakening
July, 6, 2013 | QManRN

Posted on 07/06/2013 9:42:54 AM PDT by Q-ManRN

In my first post, I mentioned that I grew up in a staunchly liberal family in the northeast reading comic books. I thought of the police as comic book superheroes that kept me safe and secure under the rule of law. Since we had these superheroes enforcing the rule of law, we were safe and secure with no need to have a gun.

As an adult, my dad was getting older and he was living alone. Like many retired adults today, he was living on a fixed income and he was having trouble making ends meet; so, I moved in with him to assist him and make sure that he was alright.

We live in a home that my father helped his grandfather build. When they built our house, the neighborhood was a nice area. Now, it is a ghetto. Like many similar neighborhoods around the nation in the 20th century it succumbed to a populace that believes that society owes them.

These people do not feel shame in taking other people’s money or property because they feel entitled to do so. They are users of other people and other people’s money and property. Therefore, they do not see a problem with resorting to violence when they are not given what they believe they are entitled to take.

There is an empty lot a short distance up the road from our home. Late one night, a gun battle erupted in that lot. I do not know who was shooting or why they were shooting.

The police were urgently summoned via 9-1-1, but the unthinkable happened- the police did not appear for nearly 40 minutes. And then only one police officer showed up initially. Eventually, more police officers did show up, but the gun battle had only lasted a few minutes.

The police searched the vacant lot to make sure that the criminals were gone; however, they missed an important piece of evidence in their search of the property- a dead body!

My dad and I were not harmed and neither were our neighbors (Thank God!). Nevertheless, I was left with some daunting questions that challenged my belief that the police were superheroes.

I will discuss those questions and explore the answers with you in my next posts.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; exliberalgunowner; guncontrol; guns; liberals; secondamendment
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To: Q-ManRN
That's how The Black Hand started in Sicily, they were the forerunner of the Costa Nostra witch became the Mafia.. They protected their neighborhoods (for a cost of course) from other crooks and corrupt cops...
41 posted on 07/06/2013 2:23:24 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Q-ManRN

DO NOT put a period at the end of a URL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3039507/posts


42 posted on 07/06/2013 3:07:29 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: Marcella

>>How bad is it going to get? <<

That all depends on the colors and education levels in your neighborhood. The whiter it is, the less violence there will be. The more education there is the less violence there will be. The more ex military men and women there is the less violence there will be.

How close are you to areas where the numbers are all wrong? The closer you are to the worst areas the sooner your life will turn upside down.

If you look in Google for the spreads in your county, you can get a pretty good idea what the future holds. If you don’t like what you see there is one option and one option only! That is move to where the numbers are better.

Marcella, I do wish there was another answer but unfortunately there isn’t.


43 posted on 07/06/2013 3:21:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: katana

>>The police, on the other hand, are low paid government functionaries more concerned with making it home to their families than anything else.<<

What? Hello Are we on the same planet?

Take a look at this url and see just what cops make these days in salary and benefits.

http://transparentnevada.com/salaries/search/?q=police+officer&t=job&j=sparks&y=any&s=default


44 posted on 07/06/2013 3:45:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch
“If you look in Google for the spreads in your county,”

I haven't messed with Google. I'm sending you a Freepmail with the county and hope you could look that up and Freepmail back the link or report (whatever it is) to what you found. I'm asking for a big favor from you but if you can do that, I owe you one - as in one beer or one Margarita (I actually know how to make them and have classy Margarita glasses). Don't know your state but I'll just hop on a plane and bring the drinks. :o)

45 posted on 07/06/2013 3:48:22 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: B4Ranch

The police, on the other hand, are low paid government functionaries more concerned with making it home to their families than anything else.<<

_________________________

Yes they are lowpaid government functionaries. The high paid ones are in politics and graft, heads of regulatory agencies, politiicans and their handlers....


46 posted on 07/06/2013 3:53:14 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks for pointing that out.


47 posted on 07/06/2013 3:59:54 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: goat granny

That is a great example! Thank you.


48 posted on 07/06/2013 4:01:10 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: SaraJohnson

You are welcome and I thank you for the encouragement. More posts to come.


49 posted on 07/06/2013 4:03:14 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Entitlement Zombies


50 posted on 07/06/2013 4:08:27 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: B4Ranch
Same planet, different part of the country. I must admit those are some rather impressive gross incomes (when overtime and "other" are included) for Nevada. And you did prompt me to look up similar figures for my location (NE Ohio).

The average salary for a recruit police officer is $40 to $45k and a lateral transfer from another locale receives on average $54k. With benefits and overtime those figures would escalate but I still would not describe it as "high income". And my guess is a semi-urban northern Midwest environment is a bit more typical than Nevada. Your point's well taken, though.

51 posted on 07/06/2013 4:27:59 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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“The average salary for a recruit police officer is $40 to $45k and a lateral transfer from another locale receives on average $54k. With benefits and overtime those figures would escalate but I still would not describe it as “high income”. And my guess is a semi-urban northern Midwest environment is a bit more typical than Nevada. Your point's well taken, though. “

It may not be high income, but it is respectable. There are other privileges and perks that come with the job, such as relatively high pensions at fairly early ages.

In return for these things, police officers are expected to have a high level of integrity, and a willingness to assume some risks to protect the public.

Unfortunately, the idea of taking risks for the public has given way to the “first priority is to go home at night”. That should never be the “first priority”. A police officer should be willing to take risks just as soldiers are.

52 posted on 07/06/2013 5:38:24 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Fighter@heart
There's never a cop around when you need them. I remember a time when the store I was working in was robbed. We had a silent alarm and we triggered it while the perps were in the store. The police from the 75th Precinct arrived a three quarters of an hour after the perps had left.
53 posted on 07/06/2013 6:25:05 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Q-ManRN

Interestingly, our sheriff has announced that he is unable to protect all of us. He therefore recommends that we arm ourselves. We are so fortunate to have such a great sheriff!


54 posted on 07/06/2013 6:47:55 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (You don't like the way I drive? Stay off the sidewalk.)
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To: Marcella

I lived in a bad place. My neighbors were drug dealers. The area was cleaned up by a comical coincidence of occurrences. At any rate, they were all arrested, hauled in and convicted. The neighborhood has been rather clean since that time.


55 posted on 07/06/2013 6:55:52 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (You don't like the way I drive? Stay off the sidewalk.)
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To: Silentgypsy

Sounds like my kind of guy! You are fortunate indeed. If our liberal sheriff here said that, I would need to be resuscitated!


56 posted on 07/06/2013 6:57:42 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Marcella

Check your mail


57 posted on 07/06/2013 7:21:37 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch

“Check your mail”

I did, now check yours. Thanks so much,
Marcella


58 posted on 07/06/2013 7:39:12 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Q-ManRN; M Kehoe

Q: ‘Why do you carry a gun?’

A: ‘Because a cop is too damned heavy!’

................................................................................. FRegards


59 posted on 07/06/2013 8:06:07 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: Q-ManRN
Hey, Q! The police no longer protect, but react...most times, too late. That's why we have over a million conceal carry folks in this state. (Damn, a FReeper meetup could probably produce a small arsenal of CCW's!)

Thanks for your posts.

60 posted on 07/08/2013 4:26:47 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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