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WHY are they calling it "reform" ?
self | June 24, 2013 | knarf

Posted on 06/24/2013 6:14:03 PM PDT by knarf

There seems to be NOTHING being "reformed" in this amnesty bill.


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Reform means to take something in existence and rework it to make it work .. or work better.

First of all, We already HAVE a "path to citizenship". My wife and I are going through the process right now. Seems to be pay their fees, wait the time, an d after a prescribed time, you take an oath and she's a citizen.

Right now, we're waiting for the last phase before citizenship, the removal of the initial two year "permanent" green card for a ten year "permanent" green card (don't ask .. I don't understand it either)

THAT'S "the path to citizenship"

I can't see much of any variation whether your male or female, a spouse or a fiancee or a student. They all have their "time to wait" and fees to pay.


So there's nothing to "reform" in our immagration system

I've also heard the words "broken system"

What, I want to ask .. is broken?

There is nothing on this planet that is broken, that SOMEone can't fix.

If my car breaks, I fix it if it's easy and pay the money for someone else to fix it if it's something I can't. Sometimes I've given my car to my son-in-law and said .. "I don't know what happened, it just stopped", and because he's a motorhead .. he diagnoses and fixes the damned thing.

,WHAT is "broken" about our immigration system?

FIX the damned thing!.


I don't understand how seemingly intelligent men use so many seemingly intelligent words and say absolutely NOTHING about what to do.


There Is Nothing To Reform ... There Is Nothing To Fix.

Just enforce the existing laws.

1 posted on 06/24/2013 6:14:03 PM PDT by knarf
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I think it was Ohio that just announced the other day that health premiums will be rising 80% thanks to “The Affordable Care Act”. The Rats,particularly.are good at thinking up wonderful sounding names for legislative turds.


2 posted on 06/24/2013 6:16:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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It’s all about amnesty. The rest is just smoke and mirrors.


3 posted on 06/24/2013 6:17:42 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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The only thing that needs fixing with regards to illegal immigration are attitude adjustments with our elected and hired on gub’mint employees. Apparently, we have a FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE which bodes ill on them, in the end.


4 posted on 06/24/2013 6:20:23 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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There seems to be NOTHING being "reformed" in this amnesty bill.

Maybe they meant transformed. Just like Odumbo said, this will forever keep the rats in power. I am outta here.

5 posted on 06/24/2013 6:23:41 PM PDT by Mark17 (My heart is in the Philippines, and soon I will be too.)
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WHY are they calling it "reform" ?

Because they wish to reform the Several States into their own image.

6 posted on 06/24/2013 6:24:39 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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I’ll REFORM IT for them and it won’t be that hard. ENFORCE THE BORDER AND ENFORCE THE LAWS!

It’s “broken” because we allow a special “ethno-superiority” class to break laws, work under the table, ignore taxes, ignore Selective Service registration, commit ID fraud, benefit fraud, .....


7 posted on 06/24/2013 6:24:53 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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It's true the immigration "system" ( I thought we had laws ) is broken.

But that's because Ted Kennedy shredded them in 1965.

What he put in place was a free-for-all that allowed in tens of millions of third worlders who have no idea what a functioning Republic looks like.

And so we ended up with 1/4 of Mexico's population, which is a big number.

No functioning immigration "system" would have let that happen. Certainly not theirs. Mexico is still Mexico. China is still overwhelmingly....Chinese.

That's cuz they play for keeps.

If there's something broken about the system as it exists, it's that it doesn't cope with the numbers of people it already has to, as you point out.

But that just means there are too many coming here in the first place.

A million a year? 90,000 a month? Those are the LEGAL numbers.

The U.S. is g-g-g-gone. But not China, Mexico, India, Korea, Pakistan, etc etc...they will survive as the countries they were.

But not us.

8 posted on 06/24/2013 6:25:20 PM PDT by Regulator
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Reform is code for “Fundamental Transformation”.


9 posted on 06/24/2013 6:26:54 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Because they're going to reform America into Mehico.
10 posted on 06/24/2013 6:30:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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not to patronize but laws are only effective if they are enforced. Roughly 47 million illegal immigrants are currently in the US and there have been laws in place for years and had they been enforced this problem would be in general terms, many many time less concerning.


11 posted on 06/24/2013 6:31:11 PM PDT by drypowder
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for the same reason they called it “reform” when they took our health care away from us; because it will deceive a large enough number of people to get it through without as much trouble.


12 posted on 06/24/2013 6:31:36 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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"Reform" is being used as a euphemism for radical change.

That's all there is to it.

13 posted on 06/24/2013 6:35:54 PM PDT by Prolixus (Summum ius summa inuria.)
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To: knarf

1. Health Care Reform
2. Immigration Reform
3. Climate Reform


14 posted on 06/24/2013 6:36:15 PM PDT by Rio
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And yet, the Obama voter is pre-occupied with freebies and pop culture. Why care when you can read about Beyonce and the Kardashians?


15 posted on 06/24/2013 6:36:17 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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They are doing exactly what they want to do - effectively nothing - wrapped up with a bow on it.

The “amnesty” part (as far as citizenship goes) will be so hard that most illegals will realize they are better off without messing with it...and of course the borders will stay basically the way they are now.

Neither side wants real change. Dems want potential voters and (RINO)Repubs want cheap labor.


16 posted on 06/24/2013 6:36:30 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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Prolixus ~: "Reform" is being used as a euphemism for radical change."

How can they call it reform, when it hasn't been formed since passage in 1986 ??


17 posted on 06/24/2013 6:39:44 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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WHY are they calling it "reform"?

Because the left often distorts language and we let them get away with it. Obamacare wasn't healthcare "reform" either. It was govt takeover. Our immigration system isn't "broken," it's unenforced. Abortion isn't "choice" and pro-homosexual policy is anything but "tolerance." Obama's "transparent" administration is cloaked in secrecy. The left is masterful at manipulating language and conservatives don't call them out for it nearly as often as they should.

18 posted on 06/24/2013 6:41:15 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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Because they have already used “affordable.”


19 posted on 06/24/2013 6:42:32 PM PDT by deadrock
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OB Trifecta..............
Wipe out private insurance............................amnesty for illegal aliens............................gorebull warming taxes


20 posted on 06/24/2013 6:47:47 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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