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Inquiring minds want to know, and there are no more inquiring minds than Freepers.
1 posted on 06/16/2013 6:54:20 AM PDT by newheart
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What I think or say privately is none of your or anyone’s D@MN business!!


2 posted on 06/16/2013 6:57:33 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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I like fried chicken....really...I like fried chicken.


3 posted on 06/16/2013 6:58:48 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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Simple enough- the more power given to the government, the more it will be abused. And, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So nobody placed in charge can remain incorruptible.


4 posted on 06/16/2013 6:58:54 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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1. Fundamentally what is wrong with being spied upon?

You first... What’s fundamentally right about it?


6 posted on 06/16/2013 7:00:04 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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As long as we’re snooping, let’s have a look at your bank account, tax returns, etc.


8 posted on 06/16/2013 7:00:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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I worry especially about our young folk - they will be propagandized, “corrected”, show-trialed, etc. Just look at Stalin and that will tell you all you need to know about how totalitarians treat information


10 posted on 06/16/2013 7:02:03 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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As Nazi Germany showed, the ability to compile information about the citizenry gives the government the ability to eliminate the undesirables before any real opposition can develop to stop them.


12 posted on 06/16/2013 7:02:14 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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When even the most innocent of remarks (nothing to hide) can be misconstrued to mean anything the perpetrators want them to appear to mean, the abuses are begging to be tapped.


14 posted on 06/16/2013 7:02:42 AM PDT by PuzzledInTX (Everything will be OK in the end. If it is not OK, then it isn't the end.)
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1. Fundamentally what is wrong with being spied upon?
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Why are there doors and walls on bathrooms and showers?

>>2. What is the problem with the “I have nothing to hide, who cares?” argument? (Or, if you prefer, you are most welcome to defend that position.)<<

There are several reasons, but the most practical is that what you say or do is subject to INTERPRETATION that may make your private acts public.

It is why you should NEVER let police check your car without a search warrant (say “Office, I do not consent to searching my vehicle. Am I free to go?”).


16 posted on 06/16/2013 7:04:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (To attempt to have intercourse with a hornet's nest is a very bad idea)
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This ENQUIRING mind doesn't want nor need to know.

2. What is the problem with the "I have nothing to hide, who cares?" argument? (Or, if you prefer, you are most welcome to defend that position.)

Democrats and liberal activist judges are always chomping at the bit with this tripe, and are innately prone to "interpreting" the meaning and intent of various parts of the Constitution that fit their subversive aims.

So, turnabout is always said to be fair play. I'll fair-play this. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. My INTERPRETATION is that Happiness requires privacy.

Done, over, nuff said, don't need no Socratic balderdash to pointless discuss a stone-written hard point.

17 posted on 06/16/2013 7:04:35 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Here's my opinion: The citizens need to look much more carefully at the activities of our politicians and bureaucrats. The enemy is in the wire. Heck, they're in the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the Pentagon, the White House. They have overrun America!

Where's the transparency Obamao promised?

Louie Gohmert Accuses FBI Of Aiding Muslim Brotherhood: ‘They Want Sharia Law, Not Our Constitution'

18 posted on 06/16/2013 7:04:37 AM PDT by Perseverando (It's ALL about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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” What is the problem with the “I have nothing to hide, who cares?” argument?”

Just because you say you don’t have anything to hide doesn’t necessarily mean that whoever is doing the analysis won’t misinterpret or misrepresent what information they may be disseminating.


19 posted on 06/16/2013 7:06:08 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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One of the things I don’t like about it falls in line with my objection to traffic cameras.

What if they decide to use what they’ve mined for something against me OTHER than stated purpose? Why should they know everything about me which in a sane normal world would be ignored? In this crazy society, the fact that I don’t approve of homos is considered subversive. Maybe tomorrow they will go after me because they find I love old cars - those evil big gas-guzzling monstrosities. Or they find out I don’t recycle?

What business is it of theirs, and how are they going to use the most mundane things against me?


21 posted on 06/16/2013 7:06:40 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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2. What is the problem with the "I have nothing to hide, who cares?" argument?

Today, you have "nothing to hide". Tomorrow, the corrupt bureaucrats redefine what is worthy of being hidden. And guess what, you're guilty and have been for quite some time.
22 posted on 06/16/2013 7:06:49 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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Reading “Black List” by Brad Thor currently. The theme of the story is so parallel to what’s going on right now with the nsa, fbi, etc it’s spooky. It’s NOBODY’s business what anybody is doing unless we are inflicting harm on someone else. I’ve always had an issue with credit card tracking and loyalty cards at the grocery store. Maybe it’s just so they can keep track of what folks buy so they can stock up easier. Maybe it’s to track your habits and develop “your” patterns. Hmm. Leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone. If I need your help, I’ll call. Otherwise, shhhhhh! Butt out! Kinda don’t think that’s gonna happen. The more power they have, the more they want. What’s that flushing sound? Hard to hear over the sound of the drones circling.


23 posted on 06/16/2013 7:07:49 AM PDT by rktman (If I need your help, I'll call. Otherwise LMTFA!!!!!!)
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1. Fundamentally what is wrong with being spied upon?

Fundamentally, the Fourth Amendment.

24 posted on 06/16/2013 7:08:47 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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Nothing to hide? Okay, let’s go there. Consider some spy finding this out, and deciding to use it against you.

1) You did something stupid in your youth. maybe a drug problem or something. you’ve long since been clean. However, a new potential employer need not know that since it could affect your chances.

2) You’re the ex of an abusive spouse, and you’ve moved for your own safety.

3) You testify in case as where despite you getting death threats, you didn’t get picked for the witness protection programs.

4) You work for a company and signed a non-discloser agreement, but figure it was okay to discuss details with a co-worker via corporate email.

5) You are on the phone discussing information that is considered attorney-client privilege.

6) Any general discussion of your personal protection in your home.

7) Discussion and/or online details of your access to financial institutions

8) Discussion and/or online content of your medical information.

9) Discussions on phone while you are the Power of Attorney for another person handling their affairs.

10) If suddenly you realized that your political and/or religious beliefs could in fact be considered suspect and a threat to government itself.

That was 10 reasons right off the top of my head why people my not want to be spied upon. I left the blatant violation of the 4th Amendment off - just for sport.

Toodles.


25 posted on 06/16/2013 7:09:10 AM PDT by jimjohn
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http://nsa.gov1.info/data/index.html

“If you have nothing to hide....”

Kinda chillin’ if ya ask me...


26 posted on 06/16/2013 7:09:24 AM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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What I say: I could care less if the government is listening to me it would be okay and not bother me a bit and not to be a killjoy but obama is the greatest thing ever.

What they hear: I could kill obama and it would be the greatest thing ever.

27 posted on 06/16/2013 7:10:44 AM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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15 years ago :DOMA
today: un-DOMA
15 years ago: you’re entitled to your own opinion
today: you’re entitled to my opinion


28 posted on 06/16/2013 7:12:09 AM PDT by gusopol3
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