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‘Boy or Girl?’ Gender a new challenge for schools
Associated Press ^ | May 28, 2013 12:41 PM EDT | Martha Irvine

Posted on 05/28/2013 12:21:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai

From the time they are born, we put our boys in blue beanies and our girls in pink ones. It’s a societal norm, an expectation even, that you just are what you are born—a boy or a girl. From early on, we divide toys and activities by very distinct gender lines, with superheroes and trucks and muck on one side and princesses and dolls and all things frilly on the other.

Many children land, enthusiastically, on the expected side. Others dabble in both “girl” and “boy” things. But what if your kid, even from an early age, mostly showed interest in doing opposite-gender things? More importantly, what if they wanted to BE the opposite gender—or a less-defined mix of both? And what if they wanted to test those limits in public places, like school?

Would you let them? …

Some experts predict that views on gender will evolve in much the same way they have for sexual orientation, since homosexuality was removed as a mental illness nearly four decades ago. Today, the gender spectrum includes those who are transgender, who see themselves as the opposite gender, and those who are gender variant, or gender nonconforming, whose gender is more “fluid.” For kids, it means they identify part of themselves as boy and part as girl. …

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: asspress; communistgoals; gender; genderconfusion; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; leftismoncampus; moralabsolutes; schoolsystem; sexpositiveagenda
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To: Olog-hai

61 posted on 05/28/2013 1:59:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Transgender is a choice, medical anomaly is a fact.

So a question for you....

What if someone born with an XY chromosome set who has CAIS and develops as a female (a lot of times these people don’t find out they are XY (you would call them male by your definition) until puberty) they find out when they don’t menstrate when they are in their teens, and then decides when they are 20 that they want to become a Male so their appearence matches their chromosomes. Even though testosterone will do nothign to little to develop them as a male because of the whole androgen insensitivity thing.

Are they Trangender or are they Male?

Well, Sithy McSith Lord are they?


62 posted on 05/28/2013 2:00:16 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Tax-chick

Something is wrong when a courageous and determined woman is described as “ballsy”!

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I would say that what is wrong is how crude discourse has become in our culture. Both men and women could be described as being “courageous”; there is no need for rude terms. So sick of the way vulgarity is rampant in the speech of even otherwise decent people.


63 posted on 05/28/2013 2:01:07 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: SoldierDad

Liberalism should be listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

Liberalism: Reality Dissasociative Disorder....


64 posted on 05/28/2013 2:02:01 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

In this case I say male. They are making the best of what God gave them. A transgender is changing the choice God has already made.

This scenario is entirely different than that of the political pushers.


65 posted on 05/28/2013 2:05:42 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

But if they stay female then does that make them transgender by the choice of inaction, what if they are in a third world country and never find out they are XY, what then...


66 posted on 05/28/2013 2:14:05 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG; Resolute Conservative
Home fun telling someone with CAIS (Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome) this.... Especially if they are conservative....

I understand you meant to say "Have fun . . . ". I do find it interesting that you selected a disorder which is so rare as to exist in 5e-5% of the population to 1.010101e-5% of the population. In other words, this condition is so rare that science cannot even predict the percentage of the population in which it occurs. As for causes? Science can tell for what reason this deformity occurs, but is unable to explain why. There are all types of environmental factors which could contribute, all of which have NOTHING to do with God's design.

67 posted on 05/28/2013 2:19:43 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Olog-hai

You are either a boy or a girl and you cannot change it.


68 posted on 05/28/2013 2:21:28 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; Bigg Red
How about replacing it with “ovarian”?

How about replacing it with "courageous and determined"? Bigg Red is right: we ought to be able to use a decent - not to mention specific - vocabularly, instead of foolish vulgarities.

69 posted on 05/28/2013 2:21:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: SoldierDad

Your previous statement is invalid though, XY doesn’t absolutely mean male and XX doesn’t absolutely mean female.

Granted it is a small percentage, but that is still there.

Maybe instead of plopping these people with gender confusion in a shrink’s couch they should draw some blood and send some to a lab.

I hate to think that maybe 10% of the ~1% of people with gender identity disorder, may have a genetic issue instead and instead are having to deal with a shrink who put them through all the mental crap and mental tourture that a “creep” has to go through when their issue is not insanity but a bona fide genetic issue.

Those are the real victims of this and they are being overlooked because crazy people are being catered to.

I know this because a relative of mine has a child with a simular genetic issue and they have had to deal with the current system and it is driving the parent nuts because they have to take their child to a “support group” full of crazy people as “part of the tratement” due to insurance and government meddling in this.


70 posted on 05/28/2013 2:31:31 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG
Your previous statement is invalid though, XY doesn’t absolutely mean male and XX doesn’t absolutely mean female.

The above is not a statement that was written into a post on this thread by me.

Maybe instead of plopping these people with gender confusion in a shrink’s couch they should draw some blood and send some to a lab.

I never made a suggestion for those with GID being sent to a psychiatrist.

I must disagree, though, that XX isn't always female, and XY isn't always male. Their may be a genetic mutation that goes along with an XX or XY birth which biologically changes the equation, but, in that situation you no longer have an XX or XY individual.

Without a genetic mutation, an XX is female, and an XY is male. That is true 100% of the time.

71 posted on 05/28/2013 2:37:17 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: GraceG

Bummer, this is such a rare disorder that at that point I don’t care. There comes a time when you just cannot accommodate every one (and shouldn’t).


72 posted on 05/28/2013 2:42:56 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Olog-hai

“American Psychiatric Association” is run by a bunch of nutjobs!


73 posted on 05/28/2013 3:03:41 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SoldierDad

Without a genetic mutation, an XX is female, and an XY is male. That is true 100% of the time.

I Approve!

Footnote exception: Possible SOY or Pseudo estorgen chemicals can skew this, but that it considering the above is not taking into account environmental factors.


74 posted on 05/28/2013 3:05:24 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Olog-hai

The author is illiterate. Most languages have some form of gender identification in just general vocabulary. It is only the clueless effetes who only speak english or “socialist” that think they can impose their homosexual view on the rest of the world.

They might as well sell tofu to canibals.


75 posted on 05/28/2013 4:05:02 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Nah, the author isn’t illiterate . . . just using “Newspeak” . . .


76 posted on 05/28/2013 4:07:45 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Posted here too, but the title is different so no wonder the other person didn’t see you’d posted it a few mintues before.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3024682/posts

It’s good there are two of them, so more people read it and drag their children out of public school. Pedal to the metal to destruction, that’s all this is.


77 posted on 05/28/2013 4:51:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Resolute Conservative

It really has nothing to do with any real disorders. What it is, is insane sick perverted leftist parents making their children crazy.


78 posted on 05/28/2013 4:53:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Medical anomalies are extremely rare and this article has nothing to do with medical anomalies.


79 posted on 05/28/2013 4:54:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fiji Hill

Interestingly, “gender”—a term until recently confined to linguistics—has replaced “sex.” In recent years, virtually every form I’ve seen that asks about an individual’s sex uses the term “gender.” I assume that this is so because one’s sex is a biological fact, whereas one’s “gender” can supposedly be perceived in alternate ways.


That’s exactly right. Leftist pervert pukes changed the language from “sex” to “gender” specifically so they could twist it up. They like “gender bender” crapola. The real question is why is a tiny percentage of sick perverts controlling the country.


80 posted on 05/28/2013 4:56:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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