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Cold fusion reactor independently verified, has 10,000 times the energy density of gas
Intrade Gateway via Extreme Tech ^ | May 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm | Sebastian Anthony

Posted on 05/24/2013 6:35:28 PM PDT by Kevmo

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1563 ... ity-of-gas

Cold fusion reactor independently verified, has 10,000 times the energy density of gas By Sebastian Anthony on May 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm 338 Comments

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Against all probability, a device that purports to use cold fusion to generate vast amounts of power has been verified by a panel of independent scientists. The research paper, which hasn’t yet undergone peer review, seems to confirm both the existence of cold fusion, and its potency: The cold fusion device being tested has roughly 10,000 times the energy density and 1,000 times the power density of gasoline. Even allowing for a massively conservative margin of error, the scientists say that the cold fusion device they tested is 10 times more powerful than gasoline — which is currently the best fuel readily available to mankind.

The device being tested, which is called the Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat for short), was created by Andrea Rossi. Rossi has been claiming for the past two years that he had finally cracked cold fusion, but much to the chagrin of the scientific community he hasn’t allowed anyone to independently analyze the device — until now. While it sounds like the scientists had a fairly free rein while testing the E-Cat, we should stress that they still don’t know exactly what’s going on inside the sealed steel cylinder reactor. Still, the seven scientists, all from good European universities, obviously felt confident enough with their findings to publish the research paper.

As for what’s happening inside the cold fusion reactor, Andrea Rossi and his colleague Sergio Focardi have previously said their device works by infusing hydrogen into nickel, transmuting the nickel into copper and releasing a large amount of heat. While Rossi hasn’t provided much in the way of details — he’s a very secretive man, it seems — we can infer some knowledge from NASA’s own research into cold fusion. Basically, hydrogen ions (single protons) are sucked into a nickel lattice (pictured right); the nickel’s electrons are forced into the hydrogen to produce neutrons; the nickel nuclei absorb these neutrons; the neutrons are stripped of their electrons to become protons; and thus the nickel goes up in atomic number from 28 to 29, becoming copper.

This process, like the “conventional” fusion of hydrogen atoms into helium, produces a lot of heat. (See: 500MW from half a gram of hydrogen: The hunt for fusion power heats up.) The main difference, though, is that the cold fusion process (also known as LENR, or low energy nuclear reaction) produces very slow moving neutrons which don’t create ionizing radiation or radioactive waste. Real fusion, on the other hand, produces fast neutrons that decimate everything in their path. In short, LENR is fairly safe — safe enough that NASA dreams of one day putting a cold fusion reactor in every home, car, and plane. Nickel and hydrogen, incidentally, are much cheaper and cleaner fuels than gasoline.

As far as we can tell, the main barrier to cold fusion — as with normal fusion — is producing more energy than you put in. In NASA’s tests, it takes a lot more energy to fuse the nickel and hydrogen than is produced by the reaction. Rossi, it would seem, has discovered a secret sauce that significantly reduces the amount of energy required to start the reaction. As for what the secret sauce is, no one knows — in the research paper, the independent scientists simply refer to it as “unknown additives.” All told, the E-Cat seems to have a power density of 4.4×105 W/kg, and an energy density of 5.1×107 Wh/kg.

If Rossi and Focardi’s cold fusion technology turns out to be real — if the E-Cat really has 10,000 times the energy density and 1,000 times the power density of gasoline — then the world will change, very, very quickly. Stay tuned; we’ll let you know when — or if — the E-Cat passes peer review.

Now read: Nuclear power is our only hope, or, the greatest environmentalist hypocrisy of all time

Research paper: arXiv:1305.3913 - “Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device”


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: cmns; coldfusion; ecat; lenr
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To: Kevmo

And if it’s proven to be real, liberals will come up with some smoke and mirrors excuse as to why it’s going to kill us all.


41 posted on 05/24/2013 7:39:56 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: Kevmo

So, if I put my coffee pot on the Cold Fusion thing-a-bob, it will produce coffee 10,000 times quicker than if I put it on a gas stove?


42 posted on 05/24/2013 7:40:57 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Note that third world , socialist, and communist governments have no Bill of Rights!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Sorry to hear you had a thread pulled
***Actually, there have been several Cold Fusion threads pulled.


43 posted on 05/24/2013 7:41:10 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: muawiyah
If this stuff takes as long as it did to develop the white light LED none of us will ever get a chance to study it very well.

White-light LEDs never cease to amaze me. My dentist wears one on a headband for close work. The thing appears to have nearly the luminosity of an arc lamp, yet its housing is just barely warm at full brightness.

As someone who grew up using various types of high-intensity miniature lamps in different projects, high-intensity white LEDs are science fiction come to life.

Of course, the iPad or iPhone is certainly SF-come-to-life too, but the white LEDs are more "energy-ish" as opposed to "compute-power-ish."

I'll tell you this... if they can improve battery technology as much as they've improved the luminosity of LEDs in the last forty years, it'll be pretty amazing.

44 posted on 05/24/2013 7:41:13 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Gyroscopes are pretty useful.


45 posted on 05/24/2013 7:42:23 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

The original “cup of tea” challenge came from a hyperskeptic, and with this demo, he could easily get 10,000 cups of tea.


46 posted on 05/24/2013 7:42:28 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kirkwood

But spinning tops aren’t!


47 posted on 05/24/2013 7:43:49 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Note that third world , socialist, and communist governments have no Bill of Rights!)
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To: Kevmo

I’m no Skeptopath, I’m quite excited about this.


48 posted on 05/24/2013 7:43:50 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Steely Tom

The key to the white LED was the Blue Laser. When I was in college, my TA was the one who developed the first blue laser in North America and was interviewed on CNN. Of course, it helped that Amber was very good looking.


49 posted on 05/24/2013 7:44:31 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

“could easily” but hasn’t!


50 posted on 05/24/2013 7:44:35 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Note that third world , socialist, and communist governments have no Bill of Rights!)
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To: Hardastarboard

Well, that’s true enough, but Libtards need jobs, too. They will happily work at LENR industries while posting diatribes against the technology. Hypocrisy is what they do.


51 posted on 05/24/2013 7:46:52 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

because he refuses the invitations.


52 posted on 05/24/2013 7:47:32 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Steely Tom

http://androidcommunity.com/student-wins-science-fair-with-30-second-phone-battery-charger-20130520/ ~ also on a Freerepublic thread. And, http://green.autoblog.com/2013/04/22/university-illinois-recharges-li-ion-battery-thousand-times-faster/ covered in Freerepublic as well. I don’t begin to understand how these little beggers work and all the explanations by the folks who developed them sound like gobbledygook ~ but in the windmill racket they were using simple iron hydride batteries that could hold fantastic amounts of current for 5.5 hours ~ and as that business ‘wound down’ those batteries went on the market cheap ~ they’re huge. Worth reading about they handle immense loads ~ like a very large version of these very small devices. Makes you wonder what other physics they’re tapping into


53 posted on 05/24/2013 8:00:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kevmo
I was referring to Rossi's pants, since I believe he is a liar, liar. Perhaps that initial reference was too esoteric. How about this: The tech supposedly converts nickle to copper at low energy, but the workings inside the cylinder are unknown.

Seems pretty obvious to me. The Obama economic principles have been harnessed. Who else can make a nickle into a penny with little or no effort?

54 posted on 05/24/2013 8:10:54 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: muawiyah
New science, however tenuous, should be allowed on FR

New scientific advancements have fascinated me since I was a kid, and I still have an abiding layman's interest in the area. I mean, what thinking person can resist the allure of "going where no man has gone before"?

Unfortunately, there's such a strident, knee-jerk reaction to emerging technologies on the part of some Freepers, that I finally quit posting such articles. Who needs the aggravation?

55 posted on 05/24/2013 8:12:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kevmo
Even the Martin Fleishman Memorial Project website has doubts.
That's not to say that we feel total confidence in the report, either. It is unfortunate that there are some justified concerns about the independence of the test team, since many of the authors are names that we have seen before in the context of Rossi. Plus, we are disappointed that none of the authors are willing to present at ICCF18 in July, which would certainly be an extremely welcoming audience for such a report, if the details stand up to further scrutiny.

56 posted on 05/24/2013 8:18:47 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: MHGinTN

Perhaps it functions better during CME? I wondered if there was a local effect that made Pons and Fleishman happen...perhaps their experiment was located near a radiation source, a uranium deposit, or magnetic variations in the earth’s magnetic field?


57 posted on 05/24/2013 8:24:14 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Moonman62

Good for them. They’re healthy skeptics. Unlike most of the skeptopaths I run across on these LENR threads.


58 posted on 05/24/2013 8:33:17 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

This explanation is laughable.


59 posted on 05/24/2013 8:37:10 PM PDT by bagman
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To: edpc

since I believe he is a liar, liar.
***You seem so certain in that belief. The problem is, this independent test was done when your “liar, liar” wasn’t even in the room. Do you suppose that 7 scientists can’t measure power in and power out?

The tech is a black box, to protect the proprietary information. Power in, power out. You measure both. You compare it to conventional sources such as gasoline.

Like you say, “seems pretty obvious to me”.


60 posted on 05/24/2013 8:37:28 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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