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Cold fusion reactor independently verified, has 10,000 times the energy density of gas By Sebastian Anthony on May 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm 338 Comments
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Against all probability, a device that purports to use cold fusion to generate vast amounts of power has been verified by a panel of independent scientists. The research paper, which hasn’t yet undergone peer review, seems to confirm both the existence of cold fusion, and its potency: The cold fusion device being tested has roughly 10,000 times the energy density and 1,000 times the power density of gasoline. Even allowing for a massively conservative margin of error, the scientists say that the cold fusion device they tested is 10 times more powerful than gasoline — which is currently the best fuel readily available to mankind.
The device being tested, which is called the Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat for short), was created by Andrea Rossi. Rossi has been claiming for the past two years that he had finally cracked cold fusion, but much to the chagrin of the scientific community he hasn’t allowed anyone to independently analyze the device — until now. While it sounds like the scientists had a fairly free rein while testing the E-Cat, we should stress that they still don’t know exactly what’s going on inside the sealed steel cylinder reactor. Still, the seven scientists, all from good European universities, obviously felt confident enough with their findings to publish the research paper.
As for what’s happening inside the cold fusion reactor, Andrea Rossi and his colleague Sergio Focardi have previously said their device works by infusing hydrogen into nickel, transmuting the nickel into copper and releasing a large amount of heat. While Rossi hasn’t provided much in the way of details — he’s a very secretive man, it seems — we can infer some knowledge from NASA’s own research into cold fusion. Basically, hydrogen ions (single protons) are sucked into a nickel lattice (pictured right); the nickel’s electrons are forced into the hydrogen to produce neutrons; the nickel nuclei absorb these neutrons; the neutrons are stripped of their electrons to become protons; and thus the nickel goes up in atomic number from 28 to 29, becoming copper.
This process, like the “conventional” fusion of hydrogen atoms into helium, produces a lot of heat. (See: 500MW from half a gram of hydrogen: The hunt for fusion power heats up.) The main difference, though, is that the cold fusion process (also known as LENR, or low energy nuclear reaction) produces very slow moving neutrons which don’t create ionizing radiation or radioactive waste. Real fusion, on the other hand, produces fast neutrons that decimate everything in their path. In short, LENR is fairly safe — safe enough that NASA dreams of one day putting a cold fusion reactor in every home, car, and plane. Nickel and hydrogen, incidentally, are much cheaper and cleaner fuels than gasoline.
As far as we can tell, the main barrier to cold fusion — as with normal fusion — is producing more energy than you put in. In NASA’s tests, it takes a lot more energy to fuse the nickel and hydrogen than is produced by the reaction. Rossi, it would seem, has discovered a secret sauce that significantly reduces the amount of energy required to start the reaction. As for what the secret sauce is, no one knows — in the research paper, the independent scientists simply refer to it as “unknown additives.” All told, the E-Cat seems to have a power density of 4.4×105 W/kg, and an energy density of 5.1×107 Wh/kg.
If Rossi and Focardi’s cold fusion technology turns out to be real — if the E-Cat really has 10,000 times the energy density and 1,000 times the power density of gasoline — then the world will change, very, very quickly. Stay tuned; we’ll let you know when — or if — the E-Cat passes peer review.
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Research paper: arXiv:1305.3913 - “Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device”
Fusion releases another three or four orders of magnitude on top of that.
***How much energy does reversible proton-proton fusion release?
http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-
It should be noted that the most common nuclear reaction in the Universe, by
far - which is the reversible fusion of two protons into Helium-2 - such as
happens with unimaginable frequency on most stars including our sun - is
thought to produce no radiation. However, this reaction may produce excess
energy.
to measure, yes; to explain? ... well, now we’re back to my original comment.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3022697/posts ~ this was up just a few days ago. Notice the article’s reference to a wrapped up ‘dimension’ of the sort we know only from math. Every time they can demonstrate a new dimension all the fundamental forces take on new and unknown characteristics ~ which we’ll need to learn all about later on down the line. So here’s #5. This is the one that pops up in the study of how paint mixes ~ might even be related to the CFL’ production of anamolous isotopes of mercury.
And there have been 5 or 6 such meltdowns in the LENR literature, including even one in this report.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3022697/posts ~ try that one. This references another dimension
The energy creation was when one of the observers farted!!!
I’m sorry, but I simply do not understand it.
Then you accept the measurements?
Most skeptopaths simply do not. There’s a conspiracy, or Rossi hoodwinked them, or it’s a huge 10x mistake that 7 scientists are too incompetent to realize, or whatever.
Those guys were caught and they're prosecuting them.
So, it's really not a joke. They had agents around the world finding new pigeons. So, why not on FR?
Sorry to hear you had a thread pulled. I am glad you keep posting info about the E-CAT because the technology needs to be explored.
Here is my only objection to the article:
“If Rossi and Focardi’s cold fusion technology turns out to be real — if the E-Cat really has 10,000 times the energy density and 1,000 times the power density of gasoline — then the world will change, very, very quickly. “
The world never changes quickly. Those whose immense wealth comes from keeping the common man tied to fossil fuels will not lightly give up their wealth.
If this stuff takes as long as it did to develop the white light LED none of us will ever get a chance to study it very well.
I thought it quite interesting that something like the self-assembly being mediated by another dimension could be posted without question, but LENR ends up as the special deletion focus of one of the moderators.
New science, however tenuous, should be allowed on FR
Well, IIRC, there is no way this works UNLESS there is something going on at the quantum level. I’m wondering if the atmospheric static field has soemthing to impact the nuclear level of this reaction. There are some really strange things that happen around tornadoes, like large metal objects getting picked up and set partially over a fence, without breaking the fence, or 2 x 4s jammed through a tree, or an empty tincan halfway through a cinderblock without being collapsed. These and many more anomolous things have been observed from tornado scenes.
Folks don’t want to give any credence to the ‘Hutchison effect’, but they cannot explain how a wooden ladle can be embedded in an aluminium block without burning the wooden part. We have dedicated ridiculers who see the name Hutchison and go ape with their ridicule routines.
Would these scientists be experts in Global Warming by any chance
How long, do you think, before we have full confirmation of E-Cat being real? The article acts like it’s still not quite settled yet, though the 7 scientists appear to feel pretty good about it.
The ultimate question is .... can it now or in the future be expected to do anything useful? A spinning top is a physics wonder of physical rules and theories in practice, but in the end is just a spinning top.
Ask the 7 scientists who printed the report. It seems incredibly obvious to me.
Is it possible they may be picking up heat/energy readings from the pants on fire?
Good question. And I will muddy the waters even further: How long until you want it to be real? I’m starting to think it’s GOOD to have these skeptopaths around and keep the veil partly in place so that I can maneuver my financial resources appropriately.
How would you go about that, if you could skip ten years into the future for 5 minutes and (assuming, of course) you find out that Cold Fusion is EVERYwhere, like gasoline engines are today. How do you Short Oil? How do you access your retirement to put the entire wad on red 25 on the Roulette wheel?
no comprehendo
And the spinning top phenomenon has been utilized as a recouping aid in vehicles, storing inertial energy on a down slope to use on the up slope.
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