Fort Hood Massacre Was "Workplace Violence," But 4 Americans Can Be Droned Without Due Process?

5/23/2013 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Ok, the Fort Hood massacre was dubbed "workplace violence" and thus the families affected by said "violence" won't be fully compensated because the massacre wasn't called an act of terrorism?

Check?

We can't prosecute the Benghazi attackers because it has been said that we don't have enough evidence to try them in civilian court?

Check?

Lastly, these 4 Americans who were supposedly killed by drones (according to Holder) were killed without due process?

Check?

Seinfeld, meet Bizarro World?

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

What say you?

[Mrs. P]

The Nazis were expert liars also.

[al baby]

I hate that saying

[Zuben Elgenubi]

You say what?

[laweeks]

All this goes on while the sockpuppet goes golfing and his large bottomed wife goes shopping for an extended vacation site . . . being a FLOTUS is such hard, hard work, ya’ know.

Let the sockpuppet’s handlers take care of the details while the grifter golfs, ok?

[FlingWingFlyer]

I'll bet Hassan is "offended" that Barry and the 'RATS refer to his jihad as "workplace violence". The commie 'RATS need to learn how to be a little more sensitive about the feelings of Islamoterrorist jihadists.

sarc/

[al baby]

sometimes

[Zuben Elgenubi]

check, and probably mate.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

They may have been born here, thus technically they are our nationals. However, they are NOT Americans any more than the blacks that cut the head off of the soldier in Britain are Brits.(The Blacks in Britain were reportedly born there.

[Rockingham]

Just what point are you trying to make? That if you have American citizenship, it should provide some form of immunity or protection from aerial attack when you go into areas where al Queda and other enemies of the US operate?

[Mrs. P]

I was just commenting on the fact that everyone in this administration seems to be really good at lying.

Is that bad?

[Rockingham]

Then say that directly. I am worried when conservatives seem to reflexively embrace the Left’s view of drone warfare that, in fighting our terrorist enemies overseas, we are bound by domestic due process and must treat American citizenship as providing legal protection for terrorists and those who accompany them.

[jwalsh07]

I have no problem killing Americans on the battlefield who are killing for the other team. I have major problems with one man, the POTUS, composing kill lists. I also have major problems with the killing of 16 year old American citizens wanted for nothing and is only guilty of being the progeny of a jihadist mook.

[Mrs. P]

My comment was simply about the lies we are constantly fed. Sorry if I confused or annoyed you. I guess you paid me back, because now I’m pretty annoyed at you telling me what to say.

[Rockingham]

I do not see my comment as "telling you what to say," my words and intention being to provoke deeper consideration of the issue, which reflects fundamental differences between conservatives and liberals over how we should defend ourselves against terrorism and its foreign sponsors, enablers, and supporters and those associated with them.

I (and most conservatives) favor aggressively and preemptively killing foreign terrorists and those associated with them, even American citizens, and doing so with drones or F-16s or any other useful method. And yes, you are quite right about the lies that Obama and his crew are propagating -- including the lies in his announcement today of further restrictions on drone strikes.

[Rockingham]

Better than foreign drone strikes, this fresh example from Heritage seems to me to provide support for your point about the Obama administration's lies about the nature of terrorism:

From: Obama Administration Refuses to Label London Attack as Terrorism

In stark contrast [to the British Prime Minister's statement], the Obama Administration’s response [to the public beheading of a British soldier by two Muslims] has been to avoid calling the attack terrorism, let alone terrorism motivated by a radical Islamic ideology. Instead the Administration, via the State Department, said it stood with the U.K. in the face of “such senseless violence.”

Senseless violence? One can hardly term a targeted attack on a U.K. soldier in broad daylight — where the assailants gleefully admit the radical motivation behind their attack — “senseless violence.”

Yet, use of this terminology is nothing new for the Obama Administration. “Senseless violence” is the Administration’s catch-all phrase loyally called upon whenever motivations for a despicable act should not be ascribed, lest someone take offense.

Particularly troubling is that “senseless violence” is the same terminology the Administration used when describing the terrorist attack in Benghazi that killed the American Ambassador and three other U.S. citizens.

[Cindy]

Just for archival purposes, we’ll take a peek at the 4 droned Americans.

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1. ANWAR AL-AWLAKI:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alawlaki/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/anwaralawlaki/index

Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2554068/posts

Treasury Designates Anwar Al-Aulaqi, Key Leader of Al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula

TREAS.gov - UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY - TG-779 ^ | July 16, 2010 | n/a
Posted on July 16, 2010 4:09:47 PM PDT by Cindy

NOTE The following text is a quote:

July 16, 2010 TG-779

Treasury Designates Anwar Al-Aulaqi, Key Leader of Al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula

Treasury Targets al-Qa’ida Leader with Ties to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab

WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of the Treasury today designated Anwar al-Aulaqi, a key leader for al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), a Yemen-based terrorist group. Aulaqi was designated pursuant to Executive Order 13224 for supporting acts of terrorism and for acting for or on behalf of AQAP. Since its inception in January 2009, AQAP has claimed responsibility for numerous terrorist attacks against Saudi, Korean, Yemeni and U.S. targets. Executive Order 13224 freezes any assets Aulaqi has under U.S. jurisdiction and prohibits U.S. persons from engaging in any transactions with him.

“Anwar al-Aulaqi has proven that he is extraordinarily dangerous, committed to carrying out deadly attacks on Americans and others worldwide,” said Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence Stuart Levey. “He has involved himself in every aspect of the supply chain of terrorism — fundraising for terrorist groups, recruiting and training operatives, and planning and ordering attacks on innocents.”

Aulaqi has pledged an oath of loyalty to AQAP emir, Nasir al-Wahishi, and plays a major role in setting the strategic direction for AQAP. Aulaqi has also recruited individuals to join AQAP, facilitated training at camps in Yemen in support of acts of terrorism, and helped focus AQAP’s attention on planning attacks on U.S. interests.

Since late 2009, Aulaqi has taken on an increasingly operational role in the group, including preparing Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who attempted to detonate an explosive device aboard a Northwest Airlines flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day 2009, for his operation. In November 2009, while in Yemen, Abdulmutallab swore allegiance to the emir of AQAP and shortly thereafter received instructions from Aulaqi to detonate an explosive device aboard a U.S. airplane over U.S. airspace. After receiving this direction from Aulaqi, Abdulmutallab obtained the explosive device he used in the attempted Christmas Day attack.

Aulaqi was imprisoned in Yemen in 2006 on charges of kidnapping for ransom and being involved in an al-Qa’ida plot to kidnap a U.S. official but was released from jail in December 2007 and subsequently went into hiding in Yemen.

“Aulaqi has sought to encourage his supporters to provide money for terrorist causes. Those who provide material support to Aulaqi or AQAP violate sanctions and expose themselves to serious consequences,” continued Levey.

Today’s action supports the international effort to degrade AQAP’s capabilities to execute violent attacks and to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat its financial and support networks. The U.S. Government will continue to work with allies to identify and take action against persons acting for or on behalf of, or providing financial and other prohibited support to, Aulaqi and AQAP.

Identifying Information

Individual: Anwar al-Aulaqi AKA: Anwar al-Awlaki AKA: Anwar al-Awlaqi AKA: Anwar Nasser Aulaqi AKA: Anwar Nasser Abdulla Aulaqi AKA: Anwar Nasswer Aulaqi DOB: April 21, 1971 Alternate DOB: April 22, 1971 POB: Las Cruces, New Mexico Citizenship: United States Citizenship: Yemen Location: Shabwah Governorate, Yemen

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2. SAMIR KHAN:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/samirkhan/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/inspire/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/jihadrecollections/index

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2605821/posts

NORTH CAROLINA MUSLIM ADMITS WORKING WITH AL QAEDA: “Proud to be an American Traitor”
JAWA REPORT - blog ^ | October 11, 2010 | By Hetz Shahor
Posted on October 12, 2010 1:12:46 AM PDT by Cindy

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3. JUDE MOHAMMAD:

Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2775962/posts

Triangle man tied to unconfirmed 9/11 bomb threat [Raleigh-Durham NC]
WRAL.com ^ | 9 Sep 2011
Posted on 09/09/2011 9:31:19 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

A man accused of being part of a terrorist cell in the Triangle has been linked to what U.S. counter-terrorism officials have called a credible but unconfirmed al-Qaida threat to set off a car bomb on bridges or tunnels in New York City or Washington.

The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Jude Kenan Mohammad is among three al-Qaida leaders that investigators believe pose a particular threat because they have lived in the U.S.

Mohammad, 22, dropped out of Fuquay-Varina High School in 2006 and left the U.S. two years later to visit Pakistan, his father’s homeland.

A federal grand jury indicted him and seven other Triangle men in 2009 on charges that they conspired to carry out terrorist activities around the world. Two of the men have pleaded guilty, and the trial of four others is set for Sept. 19 in New Bern.

Federal authorities have never arrested Mohammad in the case, saying that they believe he has been in Pakistan since the indictment was issued.

(Excerpt) Read more at wral.com ...

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2333767/posts

American Wanted for TA Terror Plot, Flees in Pakistan
ISRAEL NATIONAL NEWS.com - ARUTZ SHEVA ^ | Reported: 21:00 PM - Sep/05/09 | n/a
Posted on September 6, 2009 11:19:07 PM PDT by Cindy

(IsraelNN.com) SNIPPET: “Jude Kenan Mohammad, an American who was to go on trial in Pakistan for, among other things, planning a terror attack in Tel Aviv, disappeared on Saturday.”

SNIPPET: “Mohammad was a member of an American Islamic terror cell based in North Carolina, along with seven other U.S. citizens.”

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...

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4. ABDULRAHMAN AL-AWLAKI:

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/abdulrahman-al-awlaki-and-why-you-shouldnt-stand-next-to-an-al-qaeda-terrorist/

“Abdulrahman al-Awlaki and Why You Shouldn’t Stand Next to an Al Qaeda Terrorist”

February 6, 2013 By Daniel Greenfield

SNIPPET: “Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was not an innocent American teenager cruelly assassinated by the United States. He was the son of an Al Qaeda leader who happened to be standing next to another Al Qaeda leader who was the actual target of an infidel drone.

If you happen to be standing next to an Al Qaeda leader, then you might find yourself swimming downstream to the virgins, regardless of whether you have an American passport.

Should the United States ascertain that there is absolutely no one with an American passport in the vicinity of an Al Qaeda leader before the drone gets sent in?

Or perhaps we should only kill terrorists when there isn’t anyone around them for miles? Or better yet, maybe we shouldn’t kill terrorists at all. Maybe we should try to capture each and every one, regardless of how many men die doing it, and then take them back for a civilian trial, give them four ACLU lawyers and then release them a year later because of a lack of due process?

That’s what the left wants. That’s what the people turning Abdulrahman al-Awlaki into a martyr want.”