Posted on 03/13/2013 3:42:42 PM PDT by Kartographer
Some foods to consider for longer term storage are:
Carbohydrates: white rice, pasta, wheat, oats, dehydrated fruits and vegetables, sugars, honey, fruits, roots and tubers (cook these well) and cereals. For those with wheat allergies, click here. Proteins: legumes, eggs, nuts, peanut butter, canned meats and fish, oatmeal, grains, wheat, quinoa, seeds, MREs, popcorn Fats: whole milk, ensure, peanut butter, oil (preferably plant based oils), nuts and seeds Vitamins and Nutrients: Vitamin C, Vitamin D, vitamin powders, dehydrated fruits and vegetables, seeds to grow vegetables and for sprouting, survival bars
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LOL....I cannot tell you how many times I've said that exact line to my hubby when he wonders about ALL of the PB...and other items ;)
That is a great observation.
Check out this thread, A failure of Civility.
According to the authors, a lone wolf prepper will probably not survive, no matter what skills he possesses. Safety lies in numbers and organization - much like your medieval villages and cities.
Depends on your situation and what you’re preparing for. I’ve got a piece of land that’s near-impossible to find. But I’ve also got a few days worth of instant meals stashed in my desk at work. The land is for long-term (my goal is to be a homesteader, not just a prepper), while the desk drawer is in case the weather gets bad enough it’s not safe to drive home.
(Ok, actually, it started out because I forgot my lunch one day and found out what they charge at the restaurant across the street. Never paying that again! But given the blizzards and ice storms we get here, I decided a bigger stash was a good idea.)
I’ve been interested in learning about storing and using corn as a prepper commodity for quite a while.
So recently I bought a 50 pound bag of yellow dent corn to experiment with.
I looked it over - it was clean and bug free.
I cleaned it a little more anyway and stored it in sealed mylar bags with oxygen absorbers.
I planned on opening the bags up at various intervals - like 3 months, six months, etc. - to see if they were still good.
When I opened the first bag after about 2 months the corn was crawling with bugs. Not just a few either - it looked like there were hundreds and hundreds - maybe thousands.
I opened the other bags and they were bad too.
The ducks and squirrels loved it.
Other food items, like pasta and rice, we store in the freezer for a while to kill bugs and larve before putting them up for long term storage.
Will that work with corn?
What other things can be done to store corn without it being destroyed by bugs?
I have read about putting diatomacious earth in with the corn. But it seems that would kill the bugs after hatching and I would only end up with a bag of bad corn and dead bugs.
I would appreciate it if anyone here could offer advice and share their experience on how they store corn successfully.
Dent corn doesn’t make the best cornmeal if you grind it straight-up. There’s a lot of undigestables in it.
Making it into hominy helps, and also makes some of the nutrients more accessable.
Starting this summer I’m going to start experimenting with flour corns, which have a lower percentage of “undigestable” than dent corns, but take less processing than hominy. There’s a pretty wide range of corns out there, each with their own flavor and cooking method.
About 15 years ago I bought a 25 pound bag of popping corn (low moisture content) and a grinder, I wonder how it would come out today, it should still produce something edible.
I will never use it, it is kept in desert heat and in the original plastic bag, but I will keep it for deep storage as desperation food.
On every prepper thread there is one like you to tell us someone will take our food. That really gets old. You can store or not and so can we and we don't hang a sign in front of the house that says, “Get Your Food Here”. We have that problem figured out already (it's a secret known only to us - we have a special signal between us).
OldSarge is the leader of the pack and he developed the special signal we use. OldSarge, we owe it all to you for that special signal. You are a darlin’.
Yeah thanks Sarge! And what a signal! It will be hard to miss you screaming like a girl. ;-)
As a culinary professional, I call BS.
Lime is used to make hominy, and masa harina de maize. And is required for those only.
Straight grinding of maize makes corn meal, just like you buy in the store. That's for people. I don't grind it so fine if it's for pigs or dogs, and some relatives.
I live this stuff. I don't just read. I'm planting corn again this year so I can make my fresh masa for tamales and tortillas, since I have a well used tortilladora and comal. And I'll grind a bunch for cornmeal, for polenta, cornbread, &ct...
/johnny
I use diatomatious earth in the grains that I store. Kills bugs, safe to eat.
/johnny
Greeneyes, meant to ping you to my post 47.
Well, that article is how I did it. I started with long term food hermetically sealed by Walton Food to last 20-25 years. I did that in numerous shipments so a bunch of boxes wouldn’t be delivered at once and neighbors wondering why zillions of boxes were being unloaded by UPS at my house.
I have long term sprouts stored so I can have fresh veggies after grocery store food is out and I go to the 20-25 year food.
Last was to make a list of canned meats to buy at grocery, plus get veggies and canned fruit, etc.
These various lists were made and followed from the beginning.
Along with all that are the stored items that aren’t food. Had lists of that to follow.
Then came the barter goods which could be used by me if barter goods were not needed.
Plus, I added fast food and anything else I get at the grocery for storage and I don’t stop doing that. This past week I added 20 meals at a cost of $5.60 - just add hot water to the included styrofoam cup with the food already in it. Yes, it’s Maruchan Instant Lunch in a cup, 10 roast chicken and 10 beef. There is a shrimp one but I am very allergic to shrimp, clam, and crab - that iodine is poison to me.
I just lock my front door and not come out front for a year.
I had a 90 year old teaching me to cook the way they do up in the mountains in a community that is over 300 years old. That's older than the US, and their traditions are still strong.
I learned the secrets of the 3 sisters (corn, beans, squash) up there.
/johnny
If you do not dry pack can with oxygen absorbers, it works with wheat to put a few bay leaves into a tightly sealed container. If push comes to shove, take the buggy (they are weavel nits)/wheat outside on a breezy day, hold the container with the grain at waist height- and pour into a large container on the ground. the wind will winnow out what you do not want. The grain will not hurt you. Any grain or flour I bring home from the grocery store goes into the freezer for a week or so, there are always eggs in the product.
My flour and all grains are the long term 20-25 yr. cans from Walton. Years ago, I tried storing flour and oatmeal and you don’t want to know what that looked like after a period of time. Right then, I went with Walton to be damn sure my grains would be good. Dehydrated veggies and other foods are also the 20-25 yr. sealed ones.
That long term list was really long and I don’t think about it any more as it’s stored and I have a paper copy of what is there.
You will survive no matter what because of what you know but I knew my limitations and did what I had to do to know I’d be okay. There is more than one way to skin a cat and apologies to your catz for using that phrase.
I got my idea from a story in the MSM about how Liberals would demand that those that had share or it would be taken from you for the common good. Not my idea.
I do buy some wheat flour now, but that's just for day-to-day use and I rarely have more than 20-40 lbs on hand. Sounds like a lot, but I bake all of my own bread and go through it quickly. I don't buy store bread unless I've been sick for a week. Blech. Store bread.
/johnny
B) Are you talking about the government that can't get a good count of the population every 10 years? It's just not going to work.
Nevermind the crabby old farts that just aren't going to play that game.
/johnny
Don't. That's been a discussion item this week, given their behavior. I made a list of useful items that can be derived from a cat.
Remember... I do have a banjo. It will need replacement strings. ;)
/johnny
As I mentioned before. My family lives a mile or more up a forest service road. We’re the first house you approach. When someone who they don’t know or recognize come up they’re out there armed asking just what they want or doing up here. There are signs that say it’s a private road but yet there are people who can’t read. They’re sent politely on their way.
“Don’t. That’s been a discussion item this week, given their behavior. I made a list of useful items that can be derived from a cat.”
I know - they ate some of your plants which was your fault because you left them on a table where they could get to them. Yeah, blame the poor little kittiecatz, you big brute.
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