From Vegetarian to Confirmed Carnivore

John Nicholson

[nickcarraway]

From Vegetarian to Confirmed Carnivore (Cannot post from the Independent)

[Bon mots]

Vegetarians Are Evil!

The left-wingers go nuts over this site!

Hahahahaha.

If you have a website or forum, link to them with the word "Vegetarian" (It's called a 'google-bomb'. Here is how.

Copy and paste the text below anywhere on the web where you can post HTML.

<a href="http://www.VegetariansAreEvil.com" title="Vegetarian">vegetarian</a>

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Or post the image:

<a href="http://www.VegetariansAreEvil.com" title="Vegetarian"><img src="http://www.vegetariansareevil.com/images/hitlerveg.jpg" alt="vegetarian" title="vegetarian"></a>

[Northern Yankee]

The recipe looks great. thanks!

Yes... after I was stationed at KI Sawyer, they sent me out to the Aleutians... Shemya AFB.

I must have ticked someone off at base Ops! * Grins

[CatherineofAragon]

"Eat it when you get hungry, and enjoy."

After reading that, I AM hungry!

Juicy, browned meat....yum, there's nothing better. And that's coming from a lifelong animal lover.

[SamAdams76]

Well I guess this is only anecdotal, but the vegetarians I personally know are either unhealthy or have unpleasant personalities. Usually a combination of both.

It really does seem that the human body thrives on ample quantities of meat products (including eggs) and fats (butter, olive oil, lard). I am at my healthiest when I eat those foods regularly, especially when I go easy on those processed high-carb "health" foods that infest mostly the middle aisles of your supermarkets. You know, the ones with the "heart healthy" food labels.

I read somewhere that if the product expiration date on a food product is more than 30 days in the future, you are better off not eating it. The argument goes that food that spoils quickly is better for you because it is more natural and less likely to be loaded with preservatives like high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils.

Look at vegetarians in public life. They are usually miserable bastards. Take Steve Jobs. Vegetarian. Total dick in the workplace and his personal life (he disowned his own daughter for a number of years). Ended up dying a horrible death due to pancreatic cancer. Would Steve Jobs have been a nicer and healthier person if he had a cheeseburger or a steak once in a while? I argue that yes, he might have been and he could well be still alive and working on the next big consumer product over at Apple.

Then we have Morrissey, the aging rock star and militant vegetarian. He insists that no meat gets served at his concerts and throws hissy fits like a little girl if he doesn't get his way. Seems like a very unhappy and miserable person.

There are many other examples of vegetarians in public life in which the rest of us are thankful not to be like them.

However, our young people continue to be pressured into this high-risk and unhealthy lifestyle because they are naive enough to be taken in by far-left cultist groups like PETA and become convinced that eating meat is evil and something to be ashamed of.

I will never forget a family barbecue I had in my backyard about 10 years ago. I know I posted the story here before. A college-age relative of mine declared herself a vegetarian and out of respect for her, I bought some soy-burgers to put on the grill for her and made sure I had plenty of vegetables. She ended up turning down the soyburgers because she was concerned that they sat on a grill where meat product was previously and was thus contaminated. She made a big point about that as she picked at her salad and nuts.

Anyway, my propane tank ran dry and I had to go to my shed to get another tank. When I walked in there, I caught my "vegetarian" relative in there, in the dark, in the process of wolfing down a couple of my hot dogs. She was obviously deeply embarrassed and I never mentioned a word of it to anybody else in the family. I felt bad for her because obviously her body was telling her she needed meat but by that point, she was so publicly invested in her "vegetarianism" that she could not bring herself to admit to her own family that she was wrong about vegetarianism and that she was a meat eater once again.

Humans are carnivores, just like dogs and cats (humans closest animal friends.) If you try to deny your pet dog or cat meat, you will quickly see how they go through extreme measures to obtain meat. Cats will hunt mice and birds, dogs will hunt rabbits and squirrels. If they cannot obtain meat, they will likely be unhealthy and have shorter life spans. Human vegetarians who attempt to impose their unhealthy habits upon their pets are actually engaging in animal abuse.

[SamAdams76]

Well I guess this is only anecdotal, but the vegetarians I personally know are either unhealthy or have unpleasant personalities. Usually a combination of both.

It really does seem that the human body thrives on ample quantities of meat products (including eggs) and fats (butter, olive oil, lard). I am at my healthiest when I eat those foods regularly, especially when I go easy on those processed high-carb "health" foods that infest mostly the middle aisles of your supermarkets. You know, the ones with the "heart healthy" food labels.

I read somewhere that if the product expiration date on a food product is more than 30 days in the future, you are better off not eating it. The argument goes that food that spoils quickly is better for you because it is more natural and less likely to be loaded with preservatives like high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils.

Look at vegetarians in public life. They are usually miserable bastards. Take Steve Jobs. Vegetarian. Total dick in the workplace and his personal life (he disowned his own daughter for a number of years). Ended up dying a horrible death due to pancreatic cancer. Would Steve Jobs have been a nicer and healthier person if he had a cheeseburger or a steak once in a while? I argue that yes, he might have been and he could well be still alive and working on the next big consumer product over at Apple.

Then we have Morrissey, the aging rock star and militant vegetarian. He insists that no meat gets served at his concerts and throws hissy fits like a little girl if he doesn't get his way. Seems like a very unhappy and miserable person.

There are many other examples of vegetarians in public life in which the rest of us are thankful not to be like them.

However, our young people continue to be pressured into this high-risk and unhealthy lifestyle because they are naive enough to be taken in by far-left cultist groups like PETA and become convinced that eating meat is evil and something to be ashamed of.

I will never forget a family barbecue I had in my backyard about 10 years ago. I know I posted the story here before. A college-age relative of mine declared herself a vegetarian and out of respect for her, I bought some soy-burgers to put on the grill for her and made sure I had plenty of vegetables. She ended up turning down the soyburgers because she was concerned that they sat on a grill where meat product was previously and was thus contaminated. She made a big point about that as she picked at her salad and nuts.

Anyway, my propane tank ran dry and I had to go to my shed to get another tank. When I walked in there, I caught my "vegetarian" relative in there, in the dark, in the process of wolfing down a couple of my hot dogs. She was obviously deeply embarrassed and I never mentioned a word of it to anybody else in the family. I felt bad for her because obviously her body was telling her she needed meat but by that point, she was so publicly invested in her "vegetarianism" that she could not bring herself to admit to her own family that she was wrong about vegetarianism and that she was a meat eater once again.

Humans are carnivores, just like dogs and cats (humans closest animal friends.) If you try to deny your pet dog or cat meat, you will quickly see how they go through extreme measures to obtain meat. Cats will hunt mice and birds, dogs will hunt rabbits and squirrels. If they cannot obtain meat, they will likely be unhealthy and have shorter life spans. Human vegetarians who attempt to impose their unhealthy habits upon their pets are actually engaging in animal abuse.

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

“After 30 years of air traffic control, my stomach can’t handle pork any more, nor shellfish.”

Just curious, but what does air traffic control have to with pig & shrimp?

[PrincessB]

I haven’t tried it this way. As my “pork steak” supply is running low (sliced pork butt/shoulder), I have some room in the freezer.

For years I have said that most vegetarians crave moral superiority but have an issue with at least one of the ten commandments.

Vegetarians/vegans lose, lose, lose, on the no animals are killed for them to eat argument too. In fact they are worse that carnivores as they treat some animals as more equal than others. Do you know how many animals die or lose their habitat every time an acre of soy or rice (not to mention wheat, corn, etc) is harvested? The mice, the snakes, the birds, the frogs, the rabbits. I will raise a rabbit to eat it, but not mindlessly kill it for bread. Some of them get mashed up the the farm equipment.

In conclusion, lets have more pasture for animal harmony and just milk or kill the cow.

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

“...our small intestines are geared towards emulsifying and absorbing fats.”

Slim, Healthy People Eat Fat

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.com/hwnl_3-2.htm

Here’s a statistic to take your breath away. At least 155 million kids worldwide – about 10 percent of all children - suffer from being overweight or obese. Countries like the US lead the way with a staggering 30 percent suffering from overweight or obesity. Australia and Europe are not far behind.

These aren’t just plump children who’ll grow into large adults. These are children who look forward to a future shaped by a set of symptoms the experts are calling metabolic syndrome – a combination of conditions like diabetes, raised cholesterol and high blood pressure being found more and more to effect adults who suffered childhood obesity.

Prevailing thinking has us reducing consumption of all fats, particularly those saturated fats derived from animal sources. This belief, the ‘lipid hypothesis’ is based on a theory put forward in the late 1950s by Ancel Keys.
Researchers have spent the last fifty or so years disputing his findings and creating their own theses. One group, however, was never confused. Vegetable oil and food processing industries immediately saw profit in the ‘lipid hypothesis’, and set about demonizing traditional, and in many cases natural foods, in favor of their heavily processed products.

Let’s go back a little, before Dr. Keys came up with his theory. Before 1920 coronary heart disease was rare and most people were slim. During the next forty years the incidence of heart disease soared. Now heart disease causes at least 40 percent of all U.S. deaths. As we already know, the incidence of obesity has skyrocketed.

From approximately that same period, 1920, to 1970 and at the same time as highly processed vegetable fats were successfully promoted as healthful, the proportion of traditional fats in the American diet fell from 82 percent to 62 percent. Butter consumption fell from 18 lbs per person per year, to 4 lbs per year.

While saturated fat consumption fell, the percentage of vegetable oils as margarine, shortening and refined oils, denatured and chemically altered, increased about 400 percent. Consumption of sugar and processed food increased about 60 percent.

Who’s the villain in this story. Animal fats? Or is the villain hydrogenated oils and processed foods?
Remember when pasteurization of milk was first established as necessary to good health? Did you know heat alters milk’s amino acids, locking away the proteins that make milk so healthful?

Heat application allows the unsaturated fatty acids to become rancid over a shorter period. Heat destroys vitamins. And to complete the process of destruction, heat also destroys all enzymes in milk - the enzymes needed to help the body assimilate calcium. And, by the way, that’s how pasteurized milk helps you gain weight.

It’s certainly difficult to believe the good news food they’ve being feeding us for the last fifty years might actually be killing us.

It’s already common knowledge that natural foods can work miracles with ADHD children. If natural foods are so beneficial, would they benefit the obese elderly? Jill Engelmann, Ph.D., a nutritionist and author of Healthy Slim People Eat Fat, conducted a simple study to find out.
Twenty-five very overweight or obese adults, most in their 60’s, were documented over a 17 week period. All participants began with a full medical check-up. Health problems included diabetes, depression, high blood pressure, elevated triglycerides, urinary tract infections, fibromyalgia and gout.

All gave up processed foods. Instead they ate fresh natural foods including ‘unhealthy’ butter and raw milk. The test subjects took cod liver oil and magnesium and a dessert spoon of coconut oil before each meal. They also engaged in moderate exercise.

So what happen to these 25 elderly people at the end of their 17 weeks as guinea pigs? Again, they were given a full medical check-up. Overall health was greatly improved. Weight loss ranged up to 38 pounds. Most were able to discontinue all drugs. Notably, blood fats had normalized, something no other eating plan had been able to achieve.

It’s not rocket science – but it works. Fresh nutrient dense foods, healthy fats (such as coconut oil), and moderate exercise can change lives. This means we can overcome many of the health problems we see today and we can stop the obesity epidemic right now.

This article is based on A Current Affair ABC television program broadcast in Australia October 2005.

[Mark17]

I really don't like the FAA, because if ever there was a "cut-throat operation", it's the FAA.

My original plan, was to put in my 4 years in the USAF, then go to work for the FAA. I never did it, because I found out the FAA really is a hostile work environment. I am going to retire in the Philippines, I wonder if they would let me resume my air traffic control career?

[American Constitutionalist]

As the YOUTUBE sensation bacon, chicken, beef tease dog says... BACON, CHICKEN , BEEF ! AWAWAWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeee !

Your killing me !! lol

[American Constitutionalist]

ohh, you guys are to much..... bacon ! chicken ! beef ! ribs !

[American Constitutionalist]

As long as I have all the teeth that God has given me I am going to enjoy and eat meat until I die... pass the barbecue sauce please.

[American Constitutionalist]

My mom was cooking chicken today in the oven and she asked me to check on the chicken.
Then she asked me how is the chicken doing in the oven and I said " the chicken didn't say a single word " .. then she looked at me with this puzzled look and then smiled and then she " GOT IT ".

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I read somewhere that if the product expiration date on a food product is more than 30 days in the future, you are better off not eating it.

Nonsense. People have always stored food that would not go bad for months and were just fine. Sauerkraut, pickles, salted fish, miso, kemchi, smoked meat, dried fruit, (in fact dried anything,) hard cheese, most root vegetables and parched grain are all examples of food who's expiration date is way more then 30 days in the future and are good for you.

And let's not even get in to wine, cider and beer which have a rather long storage potential and have been part of the human diet since, well since we were people.

[Yosemitest]

I don[t know. Look at the DoD Civilian Air Traffic Control.
They do small locations and are a little, mind you, I said "A LITTLE", more crew orientated.
The problem with air traffic controllers is they get bored easy, and more than half of them play mind games on others when they git bored.

[Yosemitest]

Air traffic control is a HIGH STRESS job.
Stress usually causes stomach acid, and over a period of time, weakens the stomach lining, and causes ulcers.
"Controllers candy" is either Tums for the stomach, or aspirin for headaches.
Anyway, some foods, mostly greasy or with certain elements aggravate the stomach lining more than others.
Pork and shellfish do this. And there are other foods that do this.

"... a CIA scientist was able to acquire an estimated 11 grams of deadly shellfish toxin from SOC personnel at Fort Detrick. "

[Yosemitest]

I've had friends that did 14 months at "the Rock"and they liked it, but Shemya isn't for the faint of heart.
One said the most interesting times were when an airliner had to land there due to an emergency,
and the base had to assist with the care and upkeep of 350 additional people for 2 or 3 days, until they got the civilian airliner fixed and on its way.

[Northern Yankee]

A visiting airliner? Boy...that would have broken up the monotony. We'd kill for that kind of excitement.

We'd get USO Tours once a month while I was there. You talk about guys starved for any kind of entertainment.

Seal Pointe was a point of interest for us airmen out there. You could see these seals thrashing about, establishing dominance. Every now and then a dead seal would wash up along the shoreline. That was our news.

[Yosemitest]

Those “visiting airliners” were unscheduled, and normally emergency landings or ‘’precautionary landing” due to mechanical failure.

[Northern Yankee]

Figured as much.

We were served by Reeve's Aluetian Airways while I was there in 1977. That's how they flew most of us into the island. I did fly in C-130's, but that was mostly water patrol with the Coast Guard. Their job was to make sure all the fishing boats were where they should be while fishing for king crab.

We did fly out to Attu one day. Got a tour with the base commander in a land rover over the terrain where the Japanese and Americans fought the longest sustain battle of the second world war. Fascinating.