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No, they don’t have the right, but they have the full power of federal law enforcement behind them, so they can do what they want.
Why wouldn’t they need a warrant to come on private property and put the camera up in the first place?
The better question is...can you shoot it?
I think so.
Sending in the drones too expensive or risky?
dope or no dope, Nice to know your gubamint is keeping a close eye on ya, huh?
this is a nation lost to a rudderless agenda that keeps bashing the ship of state on the rocks of time and ‘justice’ and then pretending no harm or foul has occurred.
George W. Bush 2002 appointee
http://www.fjc.gov/servlet/nGetInfo?jid=2930&cid=999&ctype=na&instate=na
Biographical Directory of Federal Judges
Griesbach, William C.
Born 1954 in Milwaukee, WI
Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Wisconsin
Nominated by George W. Bush on January 23, 2002, to a new seat authorized by 114 Stat. 2762. Confirmed by the Senate on April 25, 2002, and received commission on May 1, 2002. Served as chief judge, 2012-present.
Education:
Marquette University, B.A., 1976
Marquette University Law School, J.D., 1979
Professional Career:
Law clerk, Hon. Bruce Beilfuss, Wisconsin Supreme Court, 1979-1980
Staff attorney, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, 1980-1982
Private practice, Wisconsin, 1982-1987
Assistant district attorney, Brown County, Wisconsin, 1987-1995
Judge, Wisconsin Circuit Court, Brown County, 1995-2002
If conservatism-at-large had any concept of what kind of surveillance state monster their support for the War on Drugs will later unleash upon them, the plug would get pulled tomorrow. A few people ODing in alleyways would be vastly preferable to what’s coming next.
Can the DEA Hide a Surveillance Camera on Your Land?>>>>>>>>>>>>
NO. They have to have a court order absent written consent by the owner.
All they needed was a warrant from a federal judge, which isn’t hard to get. They couldn’t be bothered, I guess.
Doesn't say anything about entire acreages.
Be interesting to see how SCOTUS rules.
“Curtilage is a term of legal art referring to the area of a property immediately surrounding a house or dwelling. Past Supreme Court jurisprudence, particularly US v. Oliver [9], had held under the “open fields” doctrine that areas outside the curtilage are not subject to the same Fourth Amendment protection as a home itself. “An individual may not legitimately demand privacy for activities conducted out of doors in fields, except in the area immediately surrounding the home…,” the court held in Oliver. “
I’m not a lawyer but I would think this would only apply to something they could see from adjoining public property or from a neighbor who permits them access. To be able to come on your private property without your permission is wrong any way you look at it.
Does the No Trespassing posting close the “open fields”?
I’d say yes, but who knows what the Nine Robed Lawyers will do.
And people wonder why I want to decriminalize all drugs.
For me, without a warrant, whatever they learned from the cameras is inadmissible. There is no difference between a covert camera and a wire-tap.
I don't like druggies and I don't like drug dealers. But private property means private property. You have no right to surveil a private citizen without probable cause and if its on his property, a warrant.
“Officers entering an ‘open field’ is not an area enumerated as protected under the Fourth Amendment,”
And if this is true, then why the cameras, why not just wander throught their fields openly, searching at will as they claim they have the right to do?
Jury nullification isn’t just for the left. We need to absolutely refuse to convict on this stuff when the government does these kinds of things.
It’s the only way to stop them. Jury nullification. You don’t have to give a reason, just refuse to vote guilty.
This “curtilage” BS is what a local judge cited in giving Weed Nazi Sonny Gohrman a free pass in getting one of our citizens murdered by the police. According to the judge, Daniel Wasilchen didn’t get his civil rights taken away by the weed weasel because they weren’t on the “curtilage” of his property. The weed whacker came back with a Snohomish County deputy and Daniel was killed in the exchange because he refused to back down or put his gun away on his own property.
If you somehow discovered that the cameras had been installed then much fun could be had.
Enlist some helpers and stage fake clan rallies, bigfoot, aliens and UFOs ...etc ;-)
Can Citizens legally Hide a Surveillance Camera on Govt Land?