Posted on 11/13/2012 8:41:25 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett
My daughter who is currently in Naples, Italy is being separated unexpectedly from the Navy. Not sure if this will be Administrative or Honorable. She has a TS clearance and a clean Navy record except for failing PRT. She is planning on using the GI bill and continuing with college and applying in the mil contractor field when she is back stateside. She has college credits started towards a major in Criminology (she's changing it to Criminal Justice, she says) and minor in History. With everything that is going on with our military and 3 letter agencies, I'm concerned that this may not be the wisest choice when it comes to job choices or a degree. Can anyone give any solid alternative ideas for her to check into?
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Interesting you’re not sure if this is administrative or honorable. If the discharge is other than honorable, it may hinder her employment opportunities.
Though her stated interests center around criminal justice, she may want approach some of the government contracting firms such as Booz-Allen, L-3, Northrop-Grumman, etc. Her job prospects will also hinge on where she settles once she leaves the Navy.
Well, it makes a big difference about being able to use what clearance she has if you are unsure about how she is being separated. The conditions of separation can affect future clearance status, particularly with less-than-honorable situations.
If her clearance status is going to remain good, then almost any degree in a non-liberal arts discipline would help her. She could even get a government GS-level job where they possibly help complete her degree work.
Is she committed to leaving the Navy right now? I’m a retired Air Force guy, but I thought that there used to be a remedial PRT “school” or Navy training activity in the San Diego area which gave sailors one last chance. She should ask her chain of command to be sure there aren’t any last options available.
If she is leaving, she needs to do all that’s possible in obtaining an honorable discharge on her records.
As indicated by Truth29, the type and adjudication of discharge will play a vitally important part of her employability in the defense contracting world. But just as important are her rate and rank, and what NECs she holds.
What was her specialty in the Navy? Where does she want to live?
The PRT just happened today.
What is PRT?
As indicated by Truth29, the type and adjudication of discharge will play a vitally important part of her employability in the defense contracting world. But just as important are her rate and rank, and what NECs she holds.
From OPNAV6110.1 Jul 2011:
“Members failing to meet PFA standards three times in
the most recent 4-year period shall be processed for
administrative separation (ADSEP) from the Navy.”
so it looks like admin sep for her, sorry to say. I saw another post that had a link for info regarding job opportunities.
Recommend she use the GI Bill to obtain computer or nursing related job. Not teaching!!!! Get something that is portable, i.e. either done at home over computer, or easily relicensed wherever she desires to live. If she if mechanically minded, medical equipment repair technicians usually start out with 6 figure salaries...
Best of luck to her; don’t let her PRT performance get her down. Nowadays the military wants Olympic athletes to do everything. Just one more way to minimalize our military. She’ll probably be better off in the long run...
Failing a PRT is not a reason for a less than honorabe discharge. It is going to be very important to her to make sure she does get an honorable discharge if she is interested in anything needing a clearance or having to do with law enforcement. She needs to discuss this with her Command Master Chief and maybe JAG if there is any question about that. From what you have stated I don’t see a problem.
A TS clearence is better than nothing but won’t get you a job. Depends on what her rating is and experience doing that. Good luck and thanks to her for her service.
Depending on what she wants to do with the Criminology degree, I think she has a good plan. It is essentially what I did. She can also interview with any of the alphabet agencies and have an advantage because of her service and even moreso for her clearance.
In my case, I ultimately turned down the job that was offered because of cost of living in the DC area vs cost of living in Fort Worth.
She will want to find a job quickly that requires her to have an existing TS clearance. Here is a good location for her to search for jobs: http://www.clearancejobs.com/
If she really wants to make a ton of money, and if she is into computers, have her look at the Cisco certifications after she gets her clearance job. Might take her some time to pick up the skills, but it will open up a solid six figure income.
Now to answer your question more directly ... there are very few clearance jobs outside of contractor / government work.
Fitness- Physical Readiness Test
NEC is 3923 (Strike Analyst). She knows someone who worked same job as her and was separated for the same reason who had no problem getting contractor work. She also says that failing PRT is not looked at as a reason that would make her unemployable in the Intel/Contractor field.
I stand corrected, sheese. I’d still try to wiggle out of it.
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