Posted on 11/07/2012 11:12:51 AM PST by KosmicKitty
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Since 3am this morning when I got up and checked the election results, I've been trying to figure out what happened. Mr. Kitty sent me a blog post that I really think explains why BO actually won a second term.
And while it may be combination of many things, I really do believe that the main reason Obama won is because of a dramatic change to the social structure of the United States.
Those of us old enough to remember the Carter presidency believed that, like Reagan's landslide victory, people would be so fed up with the economy, high gas prices, Middle East unrest, and so on, that Romney would win and win big. (When everything old is new again)
But what we didn't consider was the change in American culture that has happened in the last 30 years. Looking at the stats on the blog I have linked to, the largest group voting for Obama is single women, with or without children. In 1980, most women having children were married. now, women are marrying later or choosing not to marry at all whether of not they have children.
What we have now is a society where the traditional male role of husband/father has been supplanted by the government. 40% of all children are being born to single mothers, more than 70% if the mother is African American. America's voting population has experienced a dramatic change in the past 30 years.
What ever the cause, feminism, careers, etc., we have to face the fact that a large number casting their vote are looking at the government as a replacement for husband and father.
I really believe that it's not that Mitt wasn't conservative enough, or the evangelicals stayed home, or whatever. It's the fact that the voting population has changed and the majority of women voting aren't voting for a president, but are voting for government to support them.
If the republicans and/or conservatives want to win, they are going to have to find a way to address the issue of government as supporter/daddy for a majority of the women voters
1. Demographics played a big part in this election. What worries me is that the future trend will continue to stack the odds even more against us.
3. MSM bias is huge! Not only in how & what they choose to report, but sometimes more importantly, what they don't report. We need to realize that there are still a lot of voters who get their info from print newspapers & magazines, network & cable news, and late-night comedy/talk shows - all with mostly one thing in common ... they're all liberal! Benghazi, Fast & Furious, green energy scams, etc.? The average person on the street has never heard about any of these, but they do vote.
To your list, I'd only add the vote fraud, early voting, &/or voter ID (possibly all one and the same). Problem is, this won't change with a Democrat Senate blocking any attempts to correct it on a national level. And with Obama getting another 4 more years to pick judges, including possibly on the SCOTUS, any state-level legislation to end early voting or implement voter ID will be overturned at the court level. And with tin-foil hat firmly in place, I have my doubts about the electronic voting machines either over-counting Obama's votes or under-counting Romney's.
Sadly, I've been saying for decades that Reagan didn't win the Cold War. He may have won the Cold Battle, but the communists have won the War.
I don’t think the 47% can really be reached, as such. A good many of them are there by circumstance, and only temporarily. Not all are Democrats. I think we are making a mistake in assuming that this result was about the Democrats, or handouts, or even about Obama. This loss is because Republicans stayed home. Romney didn’t get as many votes as McCain, yet those people didn’t vote for Obama, and they didn’t disappear. Obama’s support fell a great deal from 2008, but Romney didn’t win over any, and didn’t get his own base. They stayed home.
Then maybe we have to fight back for them. Seriously, I have very dear friends who are libertarians, but I can't convince them that they are throwing their votes away. When was the last time a third party candidate won the presidency? Lincoln?
We have to accept that we our only viable alternative at this time is to get a strong voice in the GOP. We have to start at a local level and get conservative candidates in office. But more than the tea party, we have to reach out and get those from the other side to buy in to our ideas for America. We have to convince them that what is good for us is good for them too. We have to share the concepts of hard work, sacrifice, self-reliance, and eventual reward with people to whom those ideals are foreign concepts. We have to find a way to show them that government reliance is enslaving them and that free handouts come at a heavy price. The price is their children's lives, but the media and the democrat party won't admit it.
I beg to disagree.
Romney may not have been the candidate we wanted, but we've failed to sell our message regardless. I, for one, will not give up the war because we last a battle.
Why do we need child support? It’s just more unconstitutional redistribution of wealth enforced by the state. If a woman wants a man to support her and her children, we already have a system for that (or rather we had). It was called “marriage”, and it was constitutional and enforceable, and even better, it worked!
But no, we’d rather have the new, progressive system of child support to replace marriage. That’s really working out great for us.
Unfortunately that means changing the culture, worldview, work habits, education habits, spending habits, etc., of over half the country. The only way I can think of to do that is end the nanny state, e to force people to work, raise two-parent families, value self-reliance, etc. So we either wait for economic collapse to end welfare, or start a new country from scratch, because there is no way you end welfare by voting.
Who is the electoral college? Clearly, the country is divided right down the middle.
So how do we make our candidate fit that role? i said earlier on this post, we will never have another Reagan, but that doesn't mean that we won't have another great conservative leader. We just have to realize that the world now is different than it was in 1980. We have to move on and figure out how to sell our plan, which is much superior to any democrat plan, to people who learned in 30 second clips on Sesame street.
We have to reach that audience. We have to reach the sluts and the nuts and convince them that we do have a better plan.
And that's going to really hard, but we have to do it if we want this great nation of ours to survive.
agree 1000%....
after the midterms of 2010 when everyone was feeling good Amy Kremer of the Tea Party sent out an email asking what should we do next- i responded we “must vet the media”...we “must treat the media the way they treat us”
i received letter from the local GOP, dated 10/20 talking about who to vote for, etc- the bottom paragraph asked “if you’d like to attend a committee meeting or get involved please email us or call us at xxx-xxx-xxxx” so i called today- the number doesn’t work...
Simply: Romney wasn't someone to vote for, he was simply "the other guy's worse"-guy.
And BO got less voters too. Gotta be more to it. And we need to reach those who cast their vote for BO if we really want to win.
We have to prepare for every contingency. We never know when an opportunity will present itself.
IF that's the case, and I believe that i is, how do we get people back to their spiritual roots. Especially those who never had any to begin with.
An how do we bring back the concept of shame. Shame was very good at controlling behavior outside of the social norm. But how to we win the vote of a single mom if we condemn her actions.
Heavy stuff, no easy answers.
But the other side did that. They didn't do it quickly, but they did it. If they can do it, so can we.
I think it starts with voter ID laws and fraud, then good articulate conservatives.
I think we should acknowledge the ones “we” have already made dependent. I agree with the policy you state, but only for future applicants. need to announce the new program and then hold everyone who has a kid thereafter accountable.
You and I both know that the value of individual accountability and responsibility is now a minority belief in the US.
It’s exponentially easier to build welfare than take it away
Right, so they will never agree with my suggestions, whether we grandfather them in or not. At least, not until we see a greater societal collapse that forces them to really reevaluate things. Personally, I doubt even that would make enough people support marriage again. It may be one of those things that, once you lose it, it is gone forever.
So, since I see things from that perspective, I have no reason to compromise and say we should grandfather anything in. Neither proposal is ever going to happen, so as long as we are just talking fantasy scenarios, I’ll stick with the fantasy that is most consistent with my values.
” A good war will solve that demographic problem
We’re already at war. We lost a major battle. What can we do to not let that happen again?? “
If I knew I’d be doing it!
The uncomfortable fact is that Christianity (which is really what we are talking about) rarely wins shooting wars.
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