Vanity Is the storm hyped up?

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at3 ^

[CGASMIA68]

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at3

This is from what i think is a bouy close to the center of the storm. Wind speed 39G48 not bad although 26 ft waves for 13 seconds is batten down the hatches stuff. So if it heads W with these numbers what will winds be be at land fall?

Is the storm hyped up?

[Kirkwood]

Yes.

[CTGOPPER]

Connecticut’s biggest problem will be the 3 high tides that will happen during the long duration of the storm. The water is going to get backed up in Long Island sound. We haven’t ever seen anything in CT quite like this.

The winds will not be significant in terms of a hurricane but the duration of the winds we do get will cause problems. Those of us on the shoreline still have plenty of leaves on the trees.

[arasina]

In which part of NJ are you located? Is the hurricane supposed to make landfall along the entire coast of NJ?

[justa-hairyape]

Yesterday, a television meteorologist explained that it's a different sort of hurricane and that even though it may be categorized as only a "one" level, it is extremely dangerous for other reasons. The size of it is monstrous and I've heard that the amount of rain it will dump on the NE will most certainly cause horrible flooding.

Flooding is always the most serious problem with weak hurricanes and tropical storms. That is simply because the winds are less of a factor. If you remember last year, the global warming crowd was claiming that we would have to come up with a new Category 6 to describe these new bigger hurricanes. It was later discovered that the hurricanes only appeared bigger in modern times because our satellite images are better with more resolution. IMHO - This one is being hyped worse then Irene simply because they want to over hype it to help the election (ie - see Al Gore was right). What we really need is a new Category 0 hurricane. Basically a large Tropical Storm over hyped as a Hurricane. Then people would know to be cautious of flooding.

[Alberta's Child]

I’m in northern New Jersey. I don’t know exactly what the storm track is going to be, but I can’t have my staff come to work tomorrow if they may get stranded there with no way to get home.

[taketheredpill]

I am in Virginia Beach right now. It is hyped here for sure. The antiquated Dominion Power infrastructure is the primary concern here. A storm is not needed for us to lose power, but it is aways the excuse.

[justa-hairyape]

Flooding is always a serious issue with any storm. If this large tropical storm Sandy takes a 90 degree turn west, the coastal locations south of where the eye hits, will actually experience the opposite of flooding. As the eye approaches coastal water will rise, but then as the eye passes over, water will be pushed south and south east, away from the coast. The people located north and north east of the eye landfall will get the worse flooding. IE - Mississippi flooded worse then New Orleans during Katrina. So rain will be the main flooding threat south and west of landfall, while coastal flooding will be worse north and north east of landfall. The west side of Sandy is really getting beat up by the cold front anyway. If the two lows combine, then yes, all bets are off and this could be a real nasty situation.

[EBH]

I thought you might be interested in this new warning that just went up a little while ago for the CLEVELAND area...big storm....

... Lakeshore Flood Warning in effect from noon Monday to 8 PM EDT Tuesday...

The National Weather Service in Cleveland has issued a Lakeshore Flood Warning... which is in effect from noon Monday to 8 PM EDT Tuesday. The Lakeshore Flood Watch is no longer in effect.

* Lake Shore flooding... north to northwest storm force winds developing Monday and continuing into Tuesday will cause water levels to rise on the South Shore of Lake Erie. Large waves will have the potential to cause flooding and extensive erosion along the shoreline.

* Timing... Monday afternoon through Tuesday evening.

* Impacts... potential flooding in bays... inlets and in areas normally protected by break walls. Also extensive erosion of beaches and shoreline areas will be likely. Possible damage to structures in the water and along the beach such as boats and boathouses... piers and docks.

Precautionary/preparedness actions...

A Lakeshore Flood Warning means Lakeshore flooding is occurring, is imminent, or is expected to occur within the next 24 hours.

People in the warning area should take immediate action to protect life and property. Listen to local radio... television... or NOAA Weather Radio for further information.

[eyedigress]

I guess I could rephrase the question. Why is the first graph first and the last graph last? Engineers need to know. Thanks

(it certainly isn’t by alpha or numeric order)

[SuziQ]

Has an election date ever been extended due to weather?

I don't see that there would be any need to do so. The storm will hit a full week before the election, and even last year when we had over a foot of snow dumped on us the day before Halloween, the major roads were clear the following day, the minor ones a day or two later, and most folks had power within a week. I don't think the winds are going to be high enough to cause THAT much damage, but I have no idea about how power lines will hold up in the Mid-Atlantic states, which seems to be the area that will get the brunt of the storm.

[Vermont Lt]

The “storm” hasn’t even formed yet.

The hurricane is getting ready to come ashore. There it will run directly into an Arctic cold front coming down from Canada.

The warm, moist air coming in off the water will pump right into that frozen air, causing the water to condense and fall as rain, or further inland as snow.

To top it off, there is a high pressure system far to the northeast that will keep the storm in place, drawing more water into the air—only to dump it when it moves into the cold front.

The wind will be a big deal as it comes onshore, but it will be the heavy rain for two or three days (in some places it is expected to drop 10 inches.)

Flooding will be an issue.

In addition, this being the full moon, the storm surge will be exaggerated.

Lower Manhattan is going to be under water. Not that its a big deal, but it will clean out the subways and the sewers. Think rats. Not the two legged kind, either.

[Wuli]

the data posted shows wind speeds and wind gusts that do seem LOWER even now than the speeds they are predicting beginning tomorrow and thru Tuesday here in NY/NJ area, and that difference would seem strange given that wind speed usually slows the more time such a storm spends over land

but the data is from buoys, and I am no geographer to say how close to land they are and not a weather guru to say the winds might be slower out at sea than the winds now and predicted for the inland areas

tomorrow nite is when we are supposed to first see how accurate the predictions are

and, maybe, just maybe we need to think how not as bad was the storm that was supposed to kill the GOP convention, and didn’t

get your prayer circles going again

[newzjunkey]

No matter the reality of the storm, the Obama machine will hype Sandy like it did Isaac, as on par with Katrina in an effort to make itself appear to be savior to humanity.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

5:00 PM update shows the storm almost at it's point of reckoning as to it's Western turn with regard to the models. Out of the 8 major models 4 have it turning as expected but two have it hitting Maine and the other two have it going to Nova Scotia and staying mostly offshore.

[jocon307]

“Remember, NYC delayed the mayoral primary, because of September 11.”

Actually they had a do-over primary. Many people had already voted that day, including a friend of mine who then even rode the subway even though she knew the attack had happened. She “never thought” the Towers would come down. She was not alone in any of these things.

So, they had the primary election all over again a few weeks later (I don’t know when, but the city was screwed up for a while.)

But, that was a primary, not the national election for President.

However, if the power really is out for a week (heaven forbid as we are right in the red zone on this one, here where we are in NJ), I don’t see how they could NOT extend voting. Esp. anywhere were early voting has already taken place.

Look, I don’t like it that NYC and most of NJ are going to go for Obama, but I’m going to cast my vote for Romney as are millions of others. They’ll just have to extend things.

Let’s face it, the president and any others elected will not even take office until January, so there is plenty of time.

Oh, I do NOT want to lose power for a week!

[Marcella]

State primaries are different, only involes that state. This is the general election involving all the “57” states (whatever number Hussein said we had).

[Orange1998]

Surge is the unexpected to the inexperienced. I see one models has it pulling back out to sea after landfall. If Sandy turns into another Tropical Storm Allison someone will be in a world of trouble.

[Orange1998]

Good to know you especially a fellow FR. Houston is really a good place to be.

[penelopesire]

Prayers for you and yours! I follow Ryan Maue and joe Bastardi on Twitter. Both conservatives, smart and they are mostly worried about storm surge and flooding it seems. Follow them on twitter for updates. They are trustworthy.

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the comments...