Posted on 09/18/2012 2:35:59 PM PDT by Altariel
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — A historian of early Christianity at Harvard Divinity School has identified a scrap of papyrus that she says was written in Coptic in the fourth century and contains a phrase never seen in any piece of Scripture: “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife ...’ ”
The faded papyrus fragment is smaller than a business card, with eight lines on one side, in black ink legible under a magnifying glass. Just below the line about Jesus having a wife, the papyrus includes a second provocative clause that purportedly says, “she will be able to be my disciple.”
The finding was made public in Rome on Tuesday at an international meeting of Coptic scholars by Karen L. King, a historian who has published several books about new Gospel discoveries and is the first woman to hold the nation’s oldest endowed chair, the Hollis professor of divinity.
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Yes—but I’m not sure about “moroni.” As I recall, that’s the name of the angel who appeared to Smith and helped him translate the runes he found.
>>>Had Jesus married, he would have sinned by willingly going to the cross and leaving his wife behind.<<<
Of course not. Jesus going to the cross is no different than my husband willingly reporting for duty and dying in service to his country. Neither would be a sin.
At the cross he made provision for the care of his mother but not his wife?
"The Book of Jeremiah written circa 628 BC possibly refers to Asherah when it uses the title "Queen of Heaven" ...
"Scholars have claimed that Asherah was edited out of the Bible and that most Israelites worshiped multiple gods, including Asherah, before 586 B.C. ...
"The majority of biblical scholars the world over now accept that Asherah at one time was worshiped as the consort of Yahweh (the national god of Israel). ..."
- Wikipedia
Deuteronomy 24:5 New International Version (NIV)
5 If a man has recently married, he must not be sent to war or have any other duty laid on him. For one year he is to be free to stay at home and bring happiness to the wife he has married.
I agree. The next logical step from “He was married” is “He had kids.” Which creates all kinds of problems, because that would mean there are people with The Blood of God running through their veins, which smacks of ancient greek legends about demi-god heroes, ie very pagan.
Two: Several times in other parts of the N.T. they mention His family, as known to them, and they spell it out as: his mother, father, brothers, sisters (possibly cousins.) No mention of wife or kids.
Three: When Jesus died, he was concerned about His mother being alone, and entrusts her to his disciple John. If He were married, wouldn't He be concerned about his mother AND WIFE being alone, and needing someone to take them into their home?
Four: if Jesus had kids --- blood lines and genealogies being as intensely important as they were, in those days - wouldn't there at least be some mention, let alone controversy, about whether they would His successors? If course there would be discussion of it --- if he left any descendants. But He didn't, so there wasn't.
I rest my case.
Jesus is not married but he is the bride groom:
Matthew 25:1-13
1 “Then the kingdom of heaven shall be compared to ten maidens who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. 3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them; 4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps. 5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. 6 But at midnight there was a cry, `Behold, the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those maidens rose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, `Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise replied, `Perhaps there will not be enough for us and for you; go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterward the other maidens came also, saying, `Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he replied, `Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.
Exactly, O young scholar! It is where real men go to ski. I have in my possession an ancient ESSO papyrus, in Coptic of course, which I picked up at a gas station in Libya in 1961 upon which it is written that JC and the 12 Apostles went there in one Accord. In which case, I hope they at least had studded snow tires.
“At the cross he made provision for the care of his mother but not his wife?”
I don’t care if he was married or not. It’s fine with me if he was. Mary Magdalene was a close companion, is mentioned many times and it’s fine with me if they were married - or not.
“I remain unconvinced that Jesus was married.”
Fine.
Malachi Martin, who ain't no heretic, is in hot water with the Vatican again over his studies of disputes in the very early church over all the plum jobs going to Christ's various Uncles, Aunts, and the cousins galore. The Church at Ephesus was home to the Virgin Mary (and Diana of Ephesus, items of whose cult slipped easily into Christian practice, and from which many converts were undoubtedly made). She was from a large family, Joe was from a large family, and these relatives of which there was no shortage, were of course among the very first converts ... not to mention apostles and disciples. Since these were all collateral relatives, this helps wily old Malachi Martin evade the old sibling question of "the brothers and sisters of Christ," keeping him off the Pope's major radar.
Malachi Martin has dug up some interesting stuff which purports to show that several generations later, the Greek converts apparently weren't too happy about Greek pastorships and bishoprics going to these folks and complained about it to the Pope in Rome, with whom they were in correspondence over the course of that first two centuries or so. Malachi says the correspondence still exists.
Fascinating.
Well I don’t know about the big JC and his apostles being there....but I do know that C.W. McCall and Earl once pulled a load of chickens up there on a flatbed out of Wiggins....
Don't blame them a bit. Even a holy man such as myself gets mighty hungry up there. There's always a good chance of getting snowed in for a while, too.
What makes me sick is these stupid women watching all this crap about the British Crown. First the their blood line is part of this phony crap. These people are no different from you and I. They are fallen people from the Garden.
HAHAHA, cheap attempts to make their lives appear to be special. It only shows an empty soul.
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