Posted on 08/13/2012 8:13:21 PM PDT by goodn'mad
Fox News. Between Joe Trippi and Carl Rove. Rove states that Obama holds 271 electoral votes but Romney holds only 182 electoral votes. "If the election were held today, Obama would win."
Women (like, OMG!!!) and white guilt (or lack thereof) will be the deciding factors.
Even though that passed here in Kalifornia, it isn't really in effect yet...needs more states to vote for it (270 electoral votes worth).
See: http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/5709
Exerpt:
"On August 8, 2011, California joined Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Vermont, and Washington, plus the District of Columbia (all blue states which normally vote Democratic) in adopting the National Popular Vote rule, pledging all of their electoral votes to the candidates for president and vice president who win a majority of the national popular vote. California’s adoption of the rule brings 132 of the needed 270 electoral votes under the popular vote rule. If and when states representing 270 electoral votes have joined the popular vote movement, then and only then will those states be able to eliminate any possibility of electing a president and vice president with less than a majority of the national popular vote."
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact
It sounds like Rove thinks we are wasting our time and should just stay home on election day wringing our hands because the freeloading foreigners are going to out vote Americans in November. With “Republicans” like Rove, who the hell needs DemocRATS?
He hates the Tea party and was the last one to pick up on the 2010 landslide. Hey Karl, the election is in 90 days and the polls are generally off by 12-15 pts so who wins then?
Pray for America
Do you think it would have helped him to pick up Flordia if he had chosen Rubio as a running mate?
"Gut Medicare" is a 30 second, nightly news, commie 'RAT phrase. Ask them about the 600 billion their Kenyan boy is taking away from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare for the freeloaders. What cutesy phrase do they use to describe that? They sound as though they aren't very bright.
The Dollar is primed for a toilet flush but still it floats, why? Because the Euro is primed for the first slush.
Obama is primed for a toilet flush but still floats, why? Because Rinomney is primed for the first flush.
Thank you for interesting replies.
I play golf with them because they are actually nice guys, just naive on economic issues since they have never worked in a real business which survives by eeking out profits. Besides I take their money regularly hehehe.
This 2012 election is the most critical election since I arrived in this great country in 1960. The debt is reaching Greek proportions. Economy is on Oxygen. If Zero makes the government any bigger, and continues the Trillion dollar deficits for 4 more years, I am convinced we will be another Greece or Spain.
Which is why I get so frustrated when some can’t see the writing on the wall and pontificate about religious issues as priority one.
I concur Newt would have been a better candidate. So sad he did not get more votes than Romney. Or had the personal fortune to excoriate opponents.
But I will never give up the fight to defeat the radical socialist Muslim from Chicago.
Yes, but Rubio is alot more squishy of a conservative than Ryan. Palin or Bachmann would be forgiven for a VP like Rubio, but Romney needed someone very conservative to keep the Tea Party from starting an open revolt. So in a way, Rubio was never a viable choice.
Plus Ryan neutralizes the Ron Paul factor, with all the dissatisfaction with Romney, Ron Paul could have easily gotten 3-4% in some purple state and thrown the election to Obama. I think he will stay out of junior’s way now.
Junior as in fellow hardcore small government guy, I know they are not related.
oh you bet I stole it
If that wasn't a red flag nothing is. How many votes are cast for Obama is not as important as how many votes are counted for Obama. This regime could very well win big while voters wonder how a majority could have possibly reelected the Marxist POS. I am certain that outcomes are much more controlled than they were in say, 1960.
My (conservative) husband is driving me nuts... he's convinced that Romney/Ryan have maybe a 30% chance to win the election. He cites InTrade predictions, etc. Although he likes Ryan, he's certain that Obama will win in November anyway.
I'm not as pessimistic... right now I see the race as 50-50. It can go either way. Too early to predict, IMO...
Some moderate Republican friends/family members of ours (ugh, yeah, I know) like Ryan but thinks he's the wrong pick to win vs. Obama/Biden. They are certain the Obama Attack Machine will successfully spew their lies, and Florida (in particular) and other swing states like WI, IA, PA, etc. will go to Obama - because "seniors will be scared" that Romney/Ryan will negatively affect their financial well-being.
To that I say: Good grief... what don't seniors (or anyone) understand when they hear: "If you're 55 or older, you won't be affected at all."
What say you, FReepers?
InTrade is nothing more than a betting pool. Gambling, if you will.
The Battleground poll, conducted by Celinda Lake, the dem, and Ed Goeas, the rep, is one of the only two LIKELY voter polls I’ve seen. Despite the summer assault on Romney, it has them in a dead heat. This was conducted before the Ryan pick for VP.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79645.html
Rasmussen, the other likely voter poll, has Romney up.
Seniors know and LIKE Ryan a great deal. In fact, no other age group knows Ryan and his plan as well as seniors do.
Even though, in this household, there is only one “senior”, we both agree.
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/11/rasmussen-ryan-favorability-3925/
Please give your Eeyore husband a thump on the head for me. ;o)
Rove, the guy who managed to lose us the House and WH!
Free spending Republicans...who managed to lose us the House, White House and the Senate!
And Rove advised Bush to do so.
So, Emperor Nero Kardashian Narcissus won with 53% of the vote last time. Can anybody possibly fathom that 3% of the population of the US has not changed their mind? Does anybody believe that the intensity to vote for Obummer has not waned dramatically. Does anybody believe that Republican enthusiasm is up because of Obama, regardless of the fact that we are stuck with Romney, but at least got Ryan? The tea party did not exist in 2008, they had a taste of victory in 2010 (though dampered by some fake candidates, and still grossly outnumbered by RINOs, but 2012 can tip the scales a little further from the RINOs.
So basically, does the sum of people turning on Obummer, plus the insane hype gone reducing democratic turnout plus the horrific economy and non scandals plus the republicans recovering from Bush fatigue and McCain dissappointment, not add up to a measely 3%?
Remember there are many Obama voters who will vote for Romney (those are like a plus 2). There are many Obama voters who will not be excited to vote (+1). There are many Romney voters who will not sit this election out this time (+1). I would be willing to wager that less than 1% of McCain voters will vote for Obama this time.
I suggest it is mathematically impossible for Obummer to get near the number of votes he got last time. I will be willing to bet that he gets fewer votes than McCain got last time. So the question is will Romney get more votes than McCain got last time. Precluding mass apathy, which I doubt will happen after this last 4 years, I think with the addition of Ryan, that Romney easily gets more votes than McCain got last time.
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