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OK is there ANY "Silver Lining" to today's ruling?
28 June 2012 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 06/28/2012 10:25:40 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

SOMEBODY give us SOME hope!


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To: US Navy Vet

Was there a silver lining in the Stamp Act? The Declaratory Act? The Tea Act?

The Supreme Court’s ruling today is the eqivalent of the Intolerable Acts, when the conspiracy against the people became clear for all to see.

It’s 1774 again, people. Let’s get to work!


21 posted on 06/28/2012 10:34:26 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: US Navy Vet

How about that Americans now have access to affordable health care? /SARC


22 posted on 06/28/2012 10:34:26 AM PDT by JTHomes (A lot of injustice is done under the cover of law.)
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To: US Navy Vet
No, there isn't.

The issue is no longer Obamacare itself, so arguments on that score don't matter. I couldn't care less about any short-term partisan advantage this may or may not represent.

The only thing that matters is that the Supreme Court has now confirmed that we are all serfs to the federal government, cementing it's earlier Kelo decision that we only have the illusion of actually owning property. Now, we are completely subject to the whim of the government, or face "taxes" in penalty. And when the "taxes" get to be so great that they can't be paid, what happens?

23 posted on 06/28/2012 10:34:36 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: US Navy Vet

First, and always - God is on His throne and firmly in control.

Second - none of Obamacare goes into place until 2014. What that means is that freedom lovers have this as a passionate issue for the 2012 elections.

Third - this can be undone.

Fourth - this won’t kill us. It will make us stronger.


24 posted on 06/28/2012 10:34:50 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: US Navy Vet
This is a Pyrrhic victory for the Democrats. Governor Romney has already said his first order of business as President will be to repeal Obamacare. Also, B. Hussein can't run against the Supreme Court justices.....if Obamacare had been repealed, he could've spent the rest of the time campaigning against the Supremes, ignoring the abominable economy. Now, the economy AND CommieCare will be on the front burner.

I see a bloodbath for the Democrats in November. GOP voters will be crawling over broken glass to get to the polls.

25 posted on 06/28/2012 10:35:00 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama doesnÂ’t have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Simple: Now that Roberts has called a spade a spade (that it’s a tax) it gives every federal candidate their main talking point for this election. It is our Prime Directive for defeating all those who voted for it this election.

Though I think the decision still sucks, kudos to Roberts in calling it a tax. People are saying ‘how can the govt tax you for inaction?’ They do all the time - it’s called a FINE, which we all know is really a TAX, and they’ve simply tried to polish the turd by calling it something else.


26 posted on 06/28/2012 10:35:02 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: US Navy Vet

We’re another step closer to finally having it out in Civil War 2.0?


27 posted on 06/28/2012 10:35:13 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: US Navy Vet

“Awakening the sleeping giant” that’s American conservatism is a very good thing, prior to this November’s general election. The next Congress will be much more conservative, and they, along with President Romney, have promised, over and over and over, to repeal all of ObamaCare, as soon as possible. The majority of the general public have been against ObamaCare (along with everything else pro-Barack Obama) for a very long time, and electing a majority of anti-ObamaCare politicians to the next Congress and WH will succeed in the complete repeal of all of ObamaCare. Really!


28 posted on 06/28/2012 10:35:34 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: tentmaker
That to me is a HUGE silver lining.

0bamacare may or may not survive as legislation.

The individual mandate/tax may or may not survive SCOTUS review after someone pays the tax and has standing to challenge it.

But the principle that the commerce clause is a LIMITED power is one that will no doubt be cited so long as America and the concept of a government of limited and enumerated powers endures.

Finally, AT LAST, there was one “camel” that was just too big fat and ugly to be threaded through the “needle” of the commerce clause.

29 posted on 06/28/2012 10:35:51 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: US Navy Vet
Did the lower half of the income earners just get notified they will be getting a $3000 tax/penalty if they do not buy health insurance next year?
30 posted on 06/28/2012 10:36:23 AM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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To: Weight of Glory
Here’s one: since it’s now only legal as a tax, it can be repealed with a simple majority in the Senate through reconciliation. It’s not much, I know, but it is something.

If that is true then it is quite significant.

Obviously we are much more likely to get 51 GOP Senators after November 6th than we are to get 60.

31 posted on 06/28/2012 10:37:03 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: US Navy Vet
FOX reporting,

Romney vows to repeal, since this ruling this morning he has tweeted they have reported a million dollars in donations today.

32 posted on 06/28/2012 10:37:33 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: tentmaker
I mostly agree with you. This is my post from another thread.

What Did SCOTUS Just Do?

They took a not surprising course and kicked the matter back into the hands of the voters.

The showdown is in November.

Be there.

33 posted on 06/28/2012 10:37:34 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Obama’s “Signature Accomplishment” (achieved with the help of his fellow socialists in congress) is the opposite of a selling point.

He is the instigator of “THE LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN HUMAN HISTORY”.

Not likely to appeal to any voter with a brain, and the election is right around the corner.


34 posted on 06/28/2012 10:37:39 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: US Navy Vet
I'm telling everyone this: Hey Libs, you should be very afraid. Thanks to Obama, Pelosi and Reid the SC says the Federal Government can tax you for NOT doing something they want you to do. How will you like it when some future administration tells you that you will be taxed if you do NOT buy a gun. Or if you do NOT attend the church of your choice. Freedom of religion and the 2nd amendment are a much stronger constitutional argument than some make-believe “right to health care”. The Federal government can now tax you for ANY behavior you aren't doing that they want you to do. You Libs have always worried about “Big Brother”...well, now YOU'VE GOT IT. Thanks to Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
35 posted on 06/28/2012 10:37:43 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Eccl 10:2
Second - none of Obamacare goes into place until 2014

Some of it has already gone into effect.

Third - this can be undone

Obamacare itself? Yes. But getting the USSC to overturn its own precedent in decalring us all to be serfs of the federal government, not as easy.

Fourth - this won’t kill us. It will make us stronger.

Neither. It's made us slaves.

36 posted on 06/28/2012 10:38:23 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I don’t know but I do know this;

Every time we get a long complex ruling from the SC, the MSM cannot wait to tell us its a victory for liberals. Only after some diligent study by careful readers do we later learn that the much heralded victory has the seeds for destruction of the liberal position. Based on history, this opinion’s effects are not fully appreciated yet. Based on history, some things may very well surface that takes the steam out of the perceived liberal victory.

Or not.


37 posted on 06/28/2012 10:39:10 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: US Navy Vet

Holder will be held in contempt. More of a done deal


38 posted on 06/28/2012 10:39:27 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: US Navy Vet
I don't know yet. I've been sitting here stewing and steaming all afternoon. I'm going to Dollar General tomorrow and get me a white windshield marker and put "NOVEMBER!" on the back window of my F-150. I'm gonna put my Glock 17 in the truck with two or three of the 33 round mags I have, too. (I have a holster and CCW permit). Truck is paid for and if it gets totalled out due to keying, or damage, etc., then I get the new one I wanted.
39 posted on 06/28/2012 10:39:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: tentmaker

But did he have to rule it a tax? Couldn’t he have stopped at “unconstitutional commerce mandate”?

I thought the House has to pass taxes and have they officially passed the Obamacare tax? Seems to me they have not. Doesn’t this throw it back into the lap of Congress?


40 posted on 06/28/2012 10:39:52 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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