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Massive Gold Trove Sparks Archeological Dispute
Spiegel Online ^ | 21 June 2012 | Matthias Schulz

Posted on 06/21/2012 5:36:03 PM PDT by Theoria

A 3,300-year-old treasure trove of gold found in northern Germany has stumped German archeologists. One theory suggests that traders transported it thousands of miles from a mine in Central Asia, but other experts are skeptical.

Archeologists in Germany have an unlikely new hero: former Chancellor Gerhard Schröder. They have nothing but praise for the cigar-smoking veteran Social Democratic politician.

Why? Because it was Schröder who, together with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, pushed through a plan to pump Russian natural gas to Western Europe. For that purpose, an embankment 440 kilometers (275 miles) long and up to 30 meters (100 feet) wide had to be created from Lubmin, a coastal resort town in northeastern Germany, to Rehden in Lower Saxony near the northwestern city of Bremen.

The result has been a veritable cornucopia of ancient discoveries. The most beautiful find was made in the Gessel district of Lower Saxony, where 117 pieces of gold were found stacked tightly together in a rotten linen cloth. The hidden treasure is about 3,300 years old.

The 1.8 kilograms (4 pounds) of gold, which was found in a field, consists of some jewelry, but primarily spirals of gold wire, which are tied together in chains consisting of 10 spirals each. This isn't jewelry, but an ancient form of gold bullion.

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When Johanna Wanka, the Lower Saxony science minister, unveiled the treasure to the press in February, the story became even more surprising. She explained that testing done at the University of Hanover had revealed that the gold had come from a mine in Central Asia.

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1 posted on 06/21/2012 5:36:13 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv

Germany, gold, trade.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 5:37:06 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

There were a lot of events that happened long ago that were never written down so there is no record, thus no “history” about it.

The older I get the more I realize that there is more that is unknown than is known. Which is good because I’ve forgotten a lot of stuff...


3 posted on 06/21/2012 5:46:12 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: 43north
CRS disease
4 posted on 06/21/2012 5:57:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Theoria

Sooooooooo, what was it doing in Germany that long ago? When the Romans got there 1000yrs later, they were pretty backwards...Why would they have gold?


5 posted on 06/21/2012 6:15:04 PM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Theoria

Sooooooooo, what was it doing in Germany that long ago? When the Romans got there 1000yrs later, they were pretty backwards...Why would they have gold?


6 posted on 06/21/2012 6:15:14 PM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Theoria
There is plenty of evidence that human greed led to globalized trade more than 3,000 years ago.

These ancients worked their butts off and risked life and limb trading. But all this reporter thinks is worth noting about them is they were greedy.

7 posted on 06/21/2012 7:14:34 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Adder

No kidding. To put this in perspective this was the time of the Egyptian, Hittite, Assyrian, Babylonian and early Greek kingdoms. How that ended up in the sticks of Germany is a good question.

Here is a map of that period:

http://www.worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_1300bc.jpg


8 posted on 06/21/2012 8:27:40 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Great map. Thanks!


9 posted on 06/22/2012 6:02:46 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Theoria; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Theoria. Whoops!!!

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


10 posted on 06/22/2012 4:20:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

1.8 kilograms of gold is a treasure trove for sure.....in my backyard but it ain’t massive.


11 posted on 06/22/2012 5:01:17 PM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: Adder
Tocharians
(Knights Of The Long Swords)
12 posted on 06/22/2012 5:18:03 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Not to be confused with (Night Of The Long Knives).


13 posted on 06/22/2012 6:28:53 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Theoria; SunkenCiv

Simple answer. This is Conan’s buried loot.


14 posted on 06/22/2012 6:53:56 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: 43north; SunkenCiv; All

There is a mistake in the article referring to 2nd century BC. They should have said 12th century BC. This was the time of the “Sea People” who may have been Myceneans. They mention Jason of the Golden Fleece, who probably traveled to the far east of the Black Sea. These myths were written about by Homer. Colchis was there and may have been visited by envoy’s of Sesostris II (Egypt)around 1900 BC. I believe there are written records about that. Colchicine is a product of crocuses found in that area and has medicinal properties. Paintings from Santorini/Akrotiri which experienced a great volcanic eruption around 1600 BC show these “sacred?” crocuses. So actually although there are gaps, there are also written and artistic records of use.


15 posted on 06/23/2012 2:33:05 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: BIGLOOK

More than half the gold ever mined has been mined since 1960, but the whole pile ever mined in history would make about an 80 ft cube. :’)


16 posted on 06/23/2012 2:56:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I was taught that. I have heard it. Read it. Googled it. I still don’t believe it. A lot less than the Washington monument to put into perspective. Walk into countless pawn shops, jewelry stores, ect. and I can’t fathom that there is only that much in circulation.


17 posted on 06/23/2012 3:10:31 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: wildbill

Crom must be pleased.


18 posted on 06/23/2012 3:13:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: commonguymd

Yeah, the goldbug nuts can’t believe it either, or just deny that it’s important. That’s one of the problems with math, it gives the real answer and/or accurate estimates.


19 posted on 06/23/2012 3:32:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Still hard to comprehend. We have quite a bit on hand too. Not gold on paper but tangible gold. Have for years. Would make some nice bricks. I am one of millions that has some.


20 posted on 06/23/2012 3:36:36 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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