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Does Anyone Here Have The Real Facts On Obama's Chances In Ohio And Pennsylvania?

Posted on 04/14/2012 11:39:17 AM PDT by Reality_News

Never mind the laughable polls coming from MSNBC/ABC and the rest. There must be thousands of residents in the rust belt who can tell us the real deal. The White House must know the real internal polls,obviously thats why they are accusing the GOP of being anti-woman,along with Hillary Rosen displaying her jealous feelings towards the next First Lady. So can any of you give us the real feelings towards Obama coming from Pennsylvania and Ohio? It looks like Obama has already lost the entire south. Obama can't win without Pennsylvania,Ohio and Florida(of course,we all know that).So if you live in any of the tri-fector states, what can you tell us?


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1 posted on 04/14/2012 11:39:24 AM PDT by Reality_News
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To: Reality_News

I think that our nominee has a good chance of carrying every state that W carried in 2000.Unless I’m mistaken that’s enough (I’d have to check the new EV counts resulting from the census to be sure).


2 posted on 04/14/2012 11:45:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Reality_News

Don’t ever put “real facts” and “Obama” in the same sentence.


3 posted on 04/14/2012 11:45:52 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Reality_News

Pennsylvania has voter id, now.


4 posted on 04/14/2012 11:46:44 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Reality_News

0bama is going to rely on Voter Fraud in every state. Our side’s getting out and voting will counter that, hopefully.


5 posted on 04/14/2012 11:48:04 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Reality_News

The ‘10 election removed generations of Rat politicians in PA. The Fast Eddie machine is gone. Obummer won’t have it here to help him win this state that had a preference for Hitlery to begin with. Shale gas is also big here and the Obummer EPA is trying to shut it down as well. It will not be the easy ride in PA that he had the last time. I would consider PA to be in the toss up column for sure.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 11:49:40 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Reality_News
Ohio can certainly be won for the Republican nominee; but the campaign has not really begun. What happens depends upon what is said; what is done. Another McCain or Bush type campaign would be a major mistake. We need to put all issues on the table; to discuss the realities of life; the realities of the American tradition; to stop walking on eggs to avoid the real nub of the differences between the American vision & the Leftist assault on that American vision.

In short, it is ours to lose, if we continue to mince our words.

William Flax

7 posted on 04/14/2012 11:49:47 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Reality_News

As long as the polls are open, Democratic fraud is possible.


8 posted on 04/14/2012 11:51:15 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Reality_News

I don’t think there are any “real facts.” The election is something yet to happen, and therefore has not entered the world of facts. If chances were facts, gambling would produce a lot more billionaires.


9 posted on 04/14/2012 11:51:49 AM PDT by Tublecane
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obama is still way ahead among Blacks, people depending on government loot and are really pissed off at the working people giving them the loot, dead people, voter’s with no I.D’s, fake I.D.’s and/or multiple I.D.’s, jihadists, those with I.Q.’s under 75, and other morons. I would also list union members, but they are covered by the other categories.


10 posted on 04/14/2012 11:52:55 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Gay State Conservative
I think that our nominee has a good chance of carrying every state that W carried in 2000.

I wouldn't be counting chickens yet.

Romney has a good chance of becoming the nominee.

11 posted on 04/14/2012 11:53:59 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Ohioan
I agree, Obama is not popular here in Ohio. The 'rats suffered massive losses at the state level here, too, in 2010. And Kasich has been a very active, visible governor. The only weak point is the Ohio GOP, which is a divided, corrupt party. I think we can defeat Obama in spite of them however.
12 posted on 04/14/2012 11:55:28 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Reality_News
I live in WPA and more and more ex-demonRATS are switching and becoming pubbies.

I believe the new additions will off set the hard core that refuse to vote for mittens.

I was at a gun shop last week and the owner is a big TEA party guy was having a heated discussion over his buddies not going to vote for romney and the TEA party guy was really upset with his pal {customer} for saying that he was not going to vote for President.

Since they were both over 6'2" and everybody in the store was armed, I just listened {and thought about FR and the nihilists we have here}.

That customer sounded just like any spoiled kid that doesn't get it all his way.

13 posted on 04/14/2012 11:58:47 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Your analysis makes a lot of sense, and I am glad to hear the state’s “environment” has changed as it has. As you mentioned, shale gas will be a big deal to those people too which would hurt Obama’s chances there as well. Shale gas won’t mean so much to Philadelphia though, (urban, small parcels that won’t see the same royalties, etc.) that little rat hole city that always turns Pennsylvania away from where the state as a whole wants to go. I’m glad I don’t live in PA as I would be so angry every election when 95% of the acreage of PA votes with some sense and then that 5% comes in with all the people there and screws up any common sense they have.

Here’s hoping more of that 95% land mass will come out and overcome that Democratic stronghold in Philadelphia! :)


14 posted on 04/14/2012 12:02:01 PM PDT by casinva
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To: Gay State Conservative
"I think that our nominee has a good chance of carrying every state that W carried in 2000.Unless I’m mistaken that’s enough (I’d have to check the new EV counts resulting from the census to be sure)."

I live in Ohio and I can tell you there are goodly number of people leaving the State. And I've noticed many are heading to Texas.

So I am guessing we are losing Conservative Votes in the process. Columbus used to be a toss up as far as to which party would win the Area. It seems to have swung permanently to the Dems. The Area I live in is about 70% Republican. In the recent past no one would even consider Running as a Democrat (except for one guy who would always get elected because he represented an Area where most of the Teachers and the City Union Workers lived in) for our town council and Mayor. Last Election the Democrats managed to get 4 people Elected to Our Town Council.

Bottom line from what I can gather Ohio is definitely in Play for the Democrats. They can take it on election day even if Gas Prices and the Economy is still shaky. The Taft Debacle hurt the Republican party deep in the Republican strongholds in Ohio. It will take a decade or more from this point to repair the damage.

15 posted on 04/14/2012 12:02:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Reality_News

Well, there IS no such thing as real facts on this. But never dismiss polls out of hand. All polls have some value even though polls themselves are of only limited value.

We make the mistake of dismissing some things out of hand just because we don’t like them. It doesn’t mean we should embrace them, but none of the polls you site did badly last cycle.


16 posted on 04/14/2012 12:04:17 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: EGPWS
I wouldn't be counting chickens yet.Romney has a good chance of becoming the nominee.

Didn't Rassmussen have Romney up on Osama by a couple of points a day or two ago?

17 posted on 04/14/2012 12:12:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Rass has Romney up by 5 over Obama today.


18 posted on 04/14/2012 12:20:43 PM PDT by tatown ( FUMD, FUAC, and FUGB)
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To: Bryan24; Reality_News; Tublecane
"As long as the polls are open, Democratic fraud is possible."

When the Spanish online voting company SCYTL bought the largest vote processing corporation in the United States, it also acquired the means of manufacturing the outcome of the 2012 election.
It has also been claimed that SCYTL CEO Pere Valles is a socialist who donated heavily to the 2008 Obama campaign and lived in Chicago during Obama’s time as Illinois State Senator. MORE HERE.

19 posted on 04/14/2012 12:23:42 PM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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I think it depends on how many people have moved away from those states and on how many dead will still vote.


20 posted on 04/14/2012 12:26:51 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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