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6-day creation inane rambling

Posted on 03/02/2012 8:47:11 AM PST by Ancient Drive

I found myself wrestling with the 6-day creation history this morning. The leaps and bounds of science make it the 800 pound gorilla in the room so to speak. I'm a firm believer of the 6-day creation theory. So with this in mind I started speculating. What if it was a history told from God to humanity as if told to a child? With my mind all over the map, I began thinking. He is the creator of all things, visible and invisible, creator of the universe and all it's dimensions. Would it be a difficult task to create us and all that surrounds us in such a short time? A being with limitless knowledge, power. A being for which there is no beginning and no end? He thinks it, it is done. We create diamonds in labs these days in the blink of an eye when compared to the natural processes. To me nothing screams out louder there is a God than the human body. All those atoms in perfect symphony bringing forth molecules, cells, tissues and organs, giving rise to consciousness and the soul. My mind does have difficulty at times wrapping itself around the 6-day history. I take the account of 6 days creation on faith. All he asks of us is to have faith. And that's it for my inane ramblings of the day.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; creation; gagdadbob; genesis; onecosmosblog
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To: Still Thinking

I think you addressed your post to the wrong person.


41 posted on 03/02/2012 9:39:17 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Ancient Drive

God can do anything. Yes, in six literal days He created the heavens and the earth. Do not limit Him. I struggled with it as well and concluded God is always right.


42 posted on 03/02/2012 9:43:53 AM PST by BipolarBob (When do the salmon return to Capistrano?)
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To: Ancient Drive
All he asks of us is to have faith.

And where is yours?

The Bible is not an exact time replication, do you think that with all that begatting any one of the originals listed in Chapter 5 of Genesis {Adam's Descendents} in the Bible lived for 930, 912, 905, 910, 895 or 960 years?

43 posted on 03/02/2012 9:49:10 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: jessduntno
"Get back to me..."

OK

There are, of course, modern, deviant forms of Christianity that reject evolution, but these turn out to be much more similar to materialistic science, not in terms of content, of course, but in the form of thought.

We are not a participant in this battle, since it is really between two forms of flatland literalism which can only account for creation with recourse to magic -- the magic of "it just happened" vs. the magic of "God made it all happen."

The latter is, of course, closer to ultimate truth, but this is little consolation once we remember that it is also what the Mohammedans believe -- that God is responsible for everylittlething that happens, with no mediation by anything else, from physical law to human free will. So in either case -- the false religion of scientism or the bogus science of religionism -- we end up with man stripped of his innate dignity, and a man without intrinsic dignity is not a man.

HERE

44 posted on 03/02/2012 9:53:54 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Andrew loved the battle and he knew the stakes." ~ Mark Levin 3/2/12)
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To: CatherineofAragon; spirited irish
I think you addressed your post to the wrong person.

Oops, yes I did. I have no idea how I hit your reply button when the post to which I was replying was six posts earlier! Good points in your #24, BTW.

SI, my #29 was meant as a reply to your #18.

45 posted on 03/02/2012 9:56:53 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I believe it was as simple for Him as speaking it into existence, or even willing it.

Six days??? God could have done the entire thing in a half hour, or less...

46 posted on 03/02/2012 10:00:28 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: USS Alaska
do you think that with all that begatting any one of the originals listed in Chapter 5 of Genesis {Adam's Descendents} in the Bible lived for 930, 912, 905, 910, 895 or 960 years?

Yes.

47 posted on 03/02/2012 10:01:20 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Matchett-PI

One Cosmos Blogspot? I’ll pass. When you have some evidence, let me know. I’m pretty sure it would have been in all the papers. Especially the lib media.


48 posted on 03/02/2012 10:04:50 AM PST by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: crusty old prospector

I agree. We can sustain long periods without nourishment. It’s like creating a combustion engine and then creating the fuel to keep it running.


49 posted on 03/02/2012 10:07:25 AM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: jessduntno

lol I know.


50 posted on 03/02/2012 10:08:25 AM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: crusty old prospector

“I still wonder why God found it necessary to rest? Was creation physically or mentally taxing?”

That was the day golf was created.


51 posted on 03/02/2012 10:10:17 AM PST by jessduntno ("Newt Gingrich was part of the Reagan Revolution's Murderers' Row." - Jeffrey Lord, Reagan Admin.)
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To: crusty old prospector

I thought about that as well. He’s is tireless and does not sleep. I think he was setting an example for us to follow. Our engines are not designed to run full bore 24/7 after all.


52 posted on 03/02/2012 10:11:18 AM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Well, with all due respect to St. Augustine, that isn’t my view. Science has told me for years that eggs were bad for my health, that fat makes people fat, and on and on, and then comes the refutation. I don’t think we should look to outside influences or explanations to try and figure out what’s clear in Scripture.

The Hebrew word “yom” used for the days of creation is used many times outside of Genesis, each time to describe a 24-hour day with evening and night, as in Genesis.

This isn’t the first time I’ve seen the argument that the days couldn’t be literal days because of the 4th-day sun creation. But all that’s necessary for day and night is light and earth rotation, and you’ll note that God created light on the first day. What the nature of that light is, we don’t know, but clearly it was sufficient. Also, remember that Revelation says there will be no sun in the Holy City, because God’s glory will be all the light that’s needed.

I very much disagree with Augustine’s claim that anyone who believes in the six day creation is “speaking idiotically.” As Martin Luther said on the subject, back when some church leaders believed that six days had to mean not millions of years, but an instant, “Grant the Holy Spirit the honor of being more learned than you are.”


53 posted on 03/02/2012 10:11:50 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: BipolarBob

Oh no, I do not limit him in any way. I believe he is limitless. What is impossible for us, is possible for him.


54 posted on 03/02/2012 10:13:02 AM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

It seems to me that the natural laws that God maintains, and through which we understand Creation (His other book), indicate that the earth is billions of years old. If so, Genesis must be metaphorical, with regard to the six days of Creation. Such a position is logically coherent.

Alternatively, if Creation was literally of six days duration, then God would have had to have created the world in some kind of miraculous manner (possible), but this divine Action would simultaneously give the appearance of the world being millions of years old. This would make God deceptive, which is logically impossible.


55 posted on 03/02/2012 10:30:48 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Ancient Drive

Another thing I ponder is that why God made us to waste a third of our life sleeping. Why not a tenth or at least a quarter? Slower metabolism or something.


56 posted on 03/02/2012 10:32:37 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: circlecity

Just read www.geraldschroeder.com. The Israeli physicist explains how 6 days = 14 billion years, completely in line with the Torah.


57 posted on 03/02/2012 10:44:04 AM PST by Nabber
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To: Ancient Drive
6-day creation inane rambling

A good place to start is by reading
Gerald Schroeder's book
Genesis and the Big Bang

He also has an online video
covering the subject.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
58 posted on 03/02/2012 10:44:40 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: crusty old prospector

Hey crusty, I like your questions.
The day of rest actually proves creation was 6 literal days.

If days were symbolic for epochs - then...He’d still be resting. (I know some present this argument, that God is still resting, but obviously, with all that’s happened since - including the short life of his Son...I aint buying)

What is the ‘purpose’ of His resting? Sounds like a (massive) bible study on the Sabbath would provide some answers I’m thinking :)

Why sleep?
The science of sleep is incredibly interesting, with many of the researchers agreeing that we’ll never really understand it.

With that being said, I think we sleep because God designed it as our “daily” reminder of impending death. Death being the wages of sin, and all.
Cheers!


59 posted on 03/02/2012 10:59:30 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
God would have had to have created the world in some kind of miraculous manner (possible), but this divine Action would simultaneously give the appearance of the world being millions of years old. This would make God deceptive, which is logically impossible.

No, saying that would make God deceptive is to hold Him responsible for the misapprehension of humans who insist on interpreting the evidence without allowing for His influence. Hardly His fault when all throughout history He is proclaiming His existence to those very humans.

60 posted on 03/02/2012 11:24:20 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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