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Posted on 02/21/2012 8:33:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv
Numerous archaeological excavations are underway at a huge site in Anatolia which will uncover an ancient and rich yet forgotten kingdom known as Tuwana from the darkness of history, which will be featured in an open-air museum. The news was reported by Lorenzo d'Alfonso, an Italian archaeologist leading the joint mission by the University of Pavia and NYU, who provided details on the excavation campaign in a press conference in Istanbul this month, during which the details of the Italian archaeological missions in Turkey were explained. This "new discovery" from the pre-classical age which "needs to be continued" in southern Cappadocia took place in Kinik Hoyuk, the scholar said, referring to a site mainly involving the beginning of the first millennium BC. The area is "fully" part of the "forgotten kingdom" of Tuwana, said d'Alfonso, known until now through hieroglyphics and from several sources from the Assyrian Empire, but "never studied archaeologically": "A completely intact site that has been left untouched", trying to "place it historically to understand which civilisation it belonged to and what it's role was in the region". Kinik Hoyuk, the archaeologist said, is "one of the major sites" in terms of size in pre-classical Anatolia, if you leave the capital of the Hittites out: the most conservative estimates say that it spans 24 hectares "but topographers say that it could cover 81 hectares".
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One thing that struck me during my first visit to Turkey (via Italy and Greece) was that the variation from the expected "Mediterranean" type (black hair and dark olive complexion) seemed to increase as I traveled east. I saw more blondes in Greece and then in Istanbul than in Rome. Of course part of that is the intermixing the Ottomans forced on the Balkan peoples during the centuries of Dhimmitude and Devshirme selection of the best and brightest into slavery.
I had a professor who used to visit sites in Turkey but she always went with organized tour groups.
The same is true in other European countries--the dominant language doesn't mean that all the people are descended from the group that first brought that language there. Probably a lot of Celtic blood in France and England, probably a lot of Celtic and pre-Celtic blood in Spain and Portugal, probably a lot of Illyrian, Thracian, Celtic, and even pre-Indo-European blood in the Balkans (along with some Roman and German).
Where do you get that information? I go in and out of there all the time, in the cities and the countryside and I’ve never had any issues....they’re very friendly to all religions there from my experience and bend over backwards trying to be good hosts. I’ve even been in people’s homes that were complete strangers and had meals cooked out of hospitality. Sounds like a serious bias there.....armed guard for the countryside??? Seriously?? Wow....
Lots of nice history there and most isn’t taken care of due to costs. And there is just so much historical ruins that most countries would go broke trying to take care of that much. I sat on ruins of one of Alexander the Great’s castles and we cooked kebabs...amazing...and the hidden fresco’s in people’s backyards...coins everywhere when plowing fields, just don’t try to take them out of the country...lol. Nice place, but hopefully they don’t go too far over to radicalism.
Where do you get that information? I go in and out of there all the time, in the cities and the countryside and I’ve never had any issues....they’re very friendly to all religions there from my experience and bend over backwards trying to be good hosts. I’ve even been in people’s homes that were complete strangers and had meals cooked out of hospitality. Sounds like a serious bias there.....armed guard for the countryside??? Seriously?? Wow....
Lots of nice history there and most isn’t taken care of due to costs. And there is just so much historical ruins that most countries would go broke trying to take care of that much. I sat on ruins of one of Alexander the Great’s castles and we cooked kebabs...amazing...and the hidden fresco’s in people’s backyards...coins everywhere when plowing fields, just don’t try to take them out of the country...lol. Nice place, but hopefully they don’t go too far over to radicalism.
Where do you get that information?
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Lucky you. I lived there for 18 months, several friends were killed by the locals for reasons stated. Other things I witnessed or narrowly escaped.
They are good hosts because custom requires it. All our personnel were armed. Going in and out is not the same as living there.
Watched Turk military beat another Turk mil guy until his brains spread over the pavement ...
Street riot in Ankara was put down in 1967 with jets using napalm.
Yes I am bias, having lived it.
Unless the Military unseats the present government, they will go all the way. This is not too likely since Erdogan purged the Attaturk supporters and is working with Iran.
So you were there before martial law. Those were definitely bad times, but nothing like that now. Very different situation on the ground. I did a tour in 83 during martial law and again 96-98 during the “soft” coup. And have lived there on and off since 2004 due to family living there. It’s a lot different now and was better and more cosmopolitan, but with Erdogan stirring up populism, I think it may get worse before better. The majority are NOT what you described...a vocal minority yes. It may be different for me somewhat since I also speak the language, but times are different than those days. They certainly are not the people you make them out to be. Those were different days.
It's just that as i've travelled around, I notice that the "Turks" don't look like the Kirghiz etc. at all -- in fact they resemble Greeks or Armenians more with a touch of Semitics
The inter-mixing is also very correct
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