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Origin of Ancient Jade Tool Baffles Scientists
LiveScience ^ | 26 Jan 2012 | Jennifer Welsh

Posted on 01/31/2012 8:11:46 PM PST by Theoria

ancient jade tool

A composite photograph of the front and back of the jade gouge shown with a centimeter scale.

CREDIT: Les O’Neil, University of Otago


The discovery of a 3,300-year-old tool has led researchers to the rediscovery of a "lost" 20th-century manuscript and a "geochemically extraordinary" bit of earth.

Discovered on Emirau Island in the Bismark Archipelago (a group of islands off the coast of New Guinea), the 2-inch (5-centimeters) stone tool was probably used to carve, or gouge, wood. It seems to have fallen from a stilted house, landing in a tangle of coral reef that was eventually covered over by shifting sands.

The jade gouge may have been crafted by the Lapita people, who appeared in the western Pacific around 3,300 years ago, then spread across the Pacific to Samoa over a couple hundred years, and from there formed the ancestral population of the people we know as Polynesians, according to the researchers.

Jade gouges and axes have been found before in these areas, but what's interesting about the object is the type of jade it's made of: it seems to have come from a distant region. Perhaps these Lapita brought it from wherever they originated.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; jade; mexico; neolithic; newguinea

1 posted on 01/31/2012 8:11:52 PM PST by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv
Swim, ping.

'Researchers are now investigating those samples to see if modern techniques can prove that the tool came from Indonesia.'

Or

The only chemical match the researchers knew of was a site in Baja California Sur, Mexico.

2 posted on 01/31/2012 8:13:03 PM PST by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria
Current evidence says that the tool originated in Mexico. But that doesn't fit their theories, so they are bending over backwards hoping that an unpublished German article from 1903 may provide justification for saying that the tool originated in Indonesia.

Modern science: Conclusion first, then we begin the hunt for evidence.

3 posted on 01/31/2012 8:16:18 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (When the night falls, it falls on me, and when the day breaks I'm in pieces.)
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To: Theoria

Dharma Initiative?


4 posted on 01/31/2012 8:22:55 PM PST by newheart (What this country needs is a good dose of bran. Attack Muffins Unite!)
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To: Theoria

Shoreline ship-trade from Thailand via the Indus Valley-. Where else,
Look!
``BBC - Primary History - Indus Valley - Trade and Travel
1300 BC. 2350 BC. Indus Valley traders travel to Mesopotamia and other lands ...
Jade came from China and cedar tree wood was floated down the rivers from ...``

www.bbc.co.uk/schools/primaryhistory/indus.../trade_and_travel/


5 posted on 01/31/2012 8:23:02 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (Jade in Jakarta ?? Who knew?)
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To: Theoria

Interesting, there have been so many odd little things I have read about that get pushed aside over time. If there is not enough evidence to base a working theory on, they end up as an obscure footnote.


6 posted on 01/31/2012 8:37:00 PM PST by dog breath
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To: Theoria

-OR- it could have fallen off a boat going from point A to point B.. (at some point in history)


7 posted on 01/31/2012 8:44:12 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Theoria; dog breath; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Theoria and dog breath.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


8 posted on 01/31/2012 8:49:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Modern science: Conclusion first, then we begin the hunt for evidence.

Horse pucky. You're all too ready to believe Mexico is the source. What they're saying is there's now reason to think the jadeite *may* have come from Indonesia, and that casts doubt (given the unlikely geography of the find) on Mexican origin.

We moderns are just beginning to understand the geological resources of Indonesia. That violently volcanic island chain could easily harbor unknown jadeite sources. I've seen many newly-discovered Indonesian gem materials just coming to market in the past 10 years. Who knows what "stone" age people discovered? We moderns are just beginning to look for them.

Consider that the source of Olmec "blue" jadeite was not re-discovered until the 1990s. But 2500 years ago the Olmecs knew very well it comes from the Motagua Valley in Guatemala -- although those weren't the names they used.

9 posted on 01/31/2012 9:01:54 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Theoria
New Lapita Find Re-dates Known Fiji Settlers (Jomon/Ainu)

"Staring out from an ancient piece of pottery, the mysterious face of a bearded man has given scientists a unique glimpse of what the first settlers of Fiji may have looked like. "

"Preliminary analysis shows that the eerie-looking face consists of a prominent raised nose, the left eye and what might be eyelashes, said Roselyn Kumar of the University of the South Pacific's Institute of Applied Sciences. "

10 posted on 01/31/2012 9:13:11 PM PST by blam
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To: ClearCase_guy

Let’s see now ... an island probably had fishermen ... and the fishermen had nets ... and the nets needed to be repaired ...


11 posted on 01/31/2012 9:23:35 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

Clearly they are press on nails.


12 posted on 02/01/2012 12:23:29 AM PST by Domangart
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To: SunkenCiv

IBTAAG


13 posted on 02/01/2012 10:27:16 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Theoria

Well....how do I say this?.... let’s see....overall combined length is about 10 CM....about 4 inches....depending on where it came from, ease of use, convenience, etc....it </i>could </i> be about right...dunno....</i>

My question is: Did they find the batteries with it?


14 posted on 02/01/2012 10:30:55 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: BenLurkin

Assistant Attorney General?


15 posted on 02/01/2012 8:44:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: hosepipe

I always wondered what happened to the other half of the that thing I bought in Cabo....


16 posted on 02/02/2012 12:32:38 AM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Ancient Alien Guy"


17 posted on 02/02/2012 12:58:39 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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