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Scholarly world abuzz over Jewish scrolls find [ Afghanistan ]
Jerusalem Post ^ | Saturday, December 31, 2011 | Gil Shefler

Posted on 12/31/2011 10:12:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv

The Jewish scholarly world is abuzz over the discovery of ancient Jewish scrolls in a cave in Afghanistan's Samangan province, Channel 2 reported on Friday.

According to Arab Affairs correspondent Ehud Yeari, if validated the scrolls may be the most significant historical finding in the Jewish world since that of the Cairo Geniza in the 19th century.

"We know today about a couple of findings," Haggai Ben-Shammai, Professor Emeritus of Arabic Language and Literature at Hebrew University was quoted as saying. "In all, in my opinion, there are about 150 fragments. It may be the tip of the iceberg."

The scrolls, which were part of a geniza, a burial site for sacred Jewish texts, date from around 1,000 years ago and are in Arabic, Judeo-Arabic and ancient Persian.

One scroll, whose replica was shown to the cameras, is apparently a dirge written for an important person whose identity has not been determined.

"Where has he gone?" read the text. "His family members are now alone."

Besides the song of mourning other texts said to be found include an unknown history of the ancient kingdom of Judea, passages from the book of Isaiah and some of the works of Rabbi Saadia Gaon, a medieval sage.

In addition, rings with Jewish names like Shmuel Bar Yosef inscribed in Hebrew on them have surfaced.

The area in which the findings were discovered is on the so-called Silk Road, a trade route that connected Eastern Asia with the Middle East and Europe which Jewish merchants often traveled.

Yeari quoted sources as saying the scrolls were first moved to Peshawar province in Pakistan and from there had been sold to antiquities dealers around the world in Geneva, London, Dubai and Jerusalem.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; centralasia; epigraphyandlanguage; geniza; godsgravesglyphs; israel; losttribes; medieval; middleages; pakistan; peshawar; silkroad
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Scholarly world abuzz over Jewish scrolls find

1 posted on 12/31/2011 10:12:35 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: dervish; SJackson; Nachum; Eleutheria5; NYer; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks dervish!

Happy New Year 2012, everyone!

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 12/31/2011 10:14:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cool.


3 posted on 12/31/2011 10:24:47 AM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: SunkenCiv

Better rescue them before the Taliban get a chance to destroy them.


4 posted on 12/31/2011 10:32:10 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SunkenCiv

Israel should claim Afghanistan as Jewish land, carve out an Arab state in Tora Bora for the ‘Palestinians’ to move.


5 posted on 12/31/2011 10:32:22 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

The Pushtoo/Pathans of Afghanistan have a tradition that they are descended from the Lost Tribes of Israel, and they also claim to be guarding the original Ark of the Covenant.


6 posted on 12/31/2011 10:36:35 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SunkenCiv

This is some cool stuff.


7 posted on 12/31/2011 10:42:10 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: montag813

I was thinking the same thing!!! Israel needs to go on the offensive! Get the Truth out!!!!


8 posted on 12/31/2011 10:52:41 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature=Just Law.)
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To: BenLurkin; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; jjotto; Lancey Howard; montag813; savagesusie

These scroll finds are around 1000 years old (iow, medieval in date), but here are some interesting, mostly unrelated sidebars:
9 posted on 12/31/2011 11:04:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: jjotto

I thought the Ark was in Ethiopia. (?)


10 posted on 12/31/2011 11:36:25 AM PST by Tucker39
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To: Tucker39

hehe

The Ark has been claimed to be in Jordan, Ethiopia, South Africa/Zimbabwe, France, America, the Vatican, England and Ireland, and other places!

If it still exists, it is likely hidden (before the First Exile) somewhere on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, as Jewish tradition records.


11 posted on 12/31/2011 11:48:27 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: BenLurkin

Too bad that the early Jews had to bury these manuscripts in Afghanistan. One wonders how many more valuable papers have been destroyed by these uncultured muslims.


12 posted on 12/31/2011 12:41:48 PM PST by 353FMG
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13 posted on 12/31/2011 12:42:39 PM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt! 2012)
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To: jjotto

Sure. Everyone makes the claim. But we all know that the Arc of the Covenant is safely hidden in a storage shack in a studio back-lot in Hollywood.

Didn’t you see the documentary about that with that whip snapping, hat wearing archeological dude as narrator?


14 posted on 12/31/2011 1:25:09 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: SunkenCiv
One manuscript reads:

Eat more Oval-tine

15 posted on 12/31/2011 1:34:58 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist - VRW Conspirator)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow. Very, very cool.


16 posted on 12/31/2011 7:17:49 PM PST by agrace
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To: jjotto

Where does Jewish tradition record that? I’d love to check it out. The only thing “Jewish” that I know of which mentions it, and I could be woefully ignorant of other sources, is 2 Maccabees, which says that Jeremiah hid it in a cave under the “mountain where Moses went up.”


17 posted on 12/31/2011 7:22:31 PM PST by agrace
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To: agrace

http://www.ou.org/torah/tt/5765/bamidbar65/mikdash.htm

...Biblical commentator David Kimchi (the Radak) quoting a non-extant Midrash writes on II Divrei HaYamim 35:3, “Our rabbis of blessed memory said, ‘that (Josiah, the last righteous King of Judah) gave instructions to hide the ark so it would not be revealed (and desecrated) at the time of the (approaching) exile… At the time when Solomon built the First Temple, he (understood through the Holy Spirit that one day) it was going to be destroyed and therefore he constructed a place to hide the ark in winding, hidden tunnels deep below the surface of the earth. And the stone upon which the ark rested covered the opening of that tunnel. Josiah hid the ark there as it is said, “And he said to the Leviyim that taught all Israel… ‘Put the Holy Ark in the House that Solomon King of Israel did build…’” In Bayit Sheini, both the Aron and King Solomon’s fabulous K’ruvim were missing; Kodesh HaKodashim was completely empty...


18 posted on 12/31/2011 7:41:21 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Thank you much!


19 posted on 12/31/2011 9:04:15 PM PST by agrace
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To: jjotto

What of the Ethiopians that swear they have the Ark?y surmise is since some high ranking folks in Israel have claimed to have seen( in this day) or know where it is, I think we’ll all be surprised when it syurfices. The Midrash might kbnow, so might those Ethiopians unless it’s a false flash they have enough fire power to start a small war oer yon mountains. Josiah indeed was a good King so who know.I do bnelieve the ark orf theZCVovenant exist, it’s up to God( blessed be He) in His timinmg to reveal this again to mankind.


20 posted on 01/01/2012 7:57:55 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, "...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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