Posted on 12/27/2011 5:25:21 PM PST by dynachrome
OperatorERROR shows us the options we have for sniperizers. He compairs and shoots the American made SOCOM16 vs the Mosin Nagant
Developed prior to World War... the Crusades.
He’s funny!
ping. Some mosin mania for yer pleasure
Let me step back 15 or 20 meters... Not quite interchangeable.
Mark
Yeah, I had no idea the Confederacy used ‘em! :)
I’m going to have to take this rifle back to The SEALS, where I borrowed it from, the ones at Disneyland . .
That feller knows his guns real good, alright.
Both 7.62 by ...
51 - 54, difference of three, whatever - don’t matter.
Well, the Crusaders were a little loose with their tolerances on bore size.
Bump for review of pre revolutionary Russian army rifle.
ping
The fella looks like he's shooting at my favorite gun club in Puyallup, WA.
Probably not, but looks darn similar.
That old Russian rifle sure kicked him harder than the .308.
some Mosin fun
You, and at least one other FReeper on this thread, have no sense of humor. The guy is a comedian, one with a straight faced delivery. You should have figured that out at least by the time he was showing you his “wind gauge” on his hat.
“old Russian rifle sure kicked him “
Try one of the carbines some time:
“#9: Mosin-Nagant M44
Speaking of guns without safeties, here’s the Mosin-Nagant M44
Carbine from Russia. The Mosin was used by the Russians against
the Finns, the Finns against the Russians, the Estonians
against the Russians, the Russians against the Russians, and
the Russians against the Germans. It does, in fact, have a
safety, but it’s quite hard to engage. But this is not a
complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer
would reply, “Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior
should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing
enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in
locating warriors! No safety!” while pounding his fist on the
table.
And the Mosin can kill enemies of homeland. The muzzle blast
will vaporize green growth within a few feet of the muzzle, and
even if you miss, the enemy will be reduced to shouting “WHAT?”
to communicate. You’ll need a recoil pad or shooting jacket.
Ordinarily, this might be considered unmanly, but this rifle
has a short stock for using while wearing several layers of
wool for a Russian winter. It is acceptable to wear padding to
fire a Mosin.
Of course, there are also M38, 91/30 and other variations of
Mosin-Nagant and all are cool. All, also (except the M38), come
with a bayonet. Russian doctrine held that the bayonet was
mounted except while traveling in a vehicle, because the
Russians understood that an empty rifle could still be a pointy
sticka Viking spear. The Russians loved to spear Turks. So,
coincidentally, did the Vikings. This rifle sounds better all
the time, doesn’t it? The Finns used the Mosin as a sniper
rifle during the Winter War, and their greatest Sniper was Simo
Häyhä, who had 500 confirmed kills in 100 days. This is a man
the Finns describe as “modest” and “self-effacing.” It’s a good
thing the Russians didn’t run into a Finn who was proud and
arrogant. They’d have been wiped out.
It fires a 7.62X54R (for “Rimmed”) cartridge, about as powerful
as .30-06, and holds the distinction of being in service from
1891 to the present, longer than any other military cartridge.
It is still used in Dragunovs, PKMs and other Russian weapons.
It’s cheap in quantity. So are the rifles, because they were
built for (all variations) over 70 years, by Russia, Finland,
Poland, Romania, even the US. As I write this, arsenal-new M44s
are $55 to $200. At that price, you should have several, so any
guests you have during the Collapse can be outfitted as they
receive Enlightenment. Then they can rape, kill, sack and loot
with the rest of the men who secure a new Dark Ages to hasten
the new renaissance. It will be a manly duty.”
Simo Häyhä (during WWII along the Kollaa River in Finland)
“The White Death” - World’s Greatest Sniper
http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp
Pic: http://www.mosinnagant.net/images/simohayha.jpg
He used the Mosin Nagant M28
But, also the Suomi K31 SMG submachine gun.
What ever works.
The Finns accurized their rifles. If you can find a finned 91/30 for a reasonable price , they are nice shooters (I don’t have one, just a M39 or two which are very accurate) regular 91/30s for $100 +/-
Yep.
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