Loving discipline including spanking down, abusiveness up.
We live in an increasingly feminized society. I’ll just leave it at that.
“Reasoning” with children and becoming their “friend” is what bubbleheaded parents do now. Mostly out of guilt because they drop them off at day cares and see little of them.
“Reasoning” with children and becoming their “friend” is what bubbleheaded parents do now. Mostly out of guilt because they drop them off at day cares and see little of them.
Interesting how we’ve spared the rod and we now have the most narcisistic generation to date. They all require trophies, or someone else’s wealth, and if they don’t get it they will crap on police cars. Has the child been spoiled? As a side note, spanking was not working with our son so we are now using a time-out chair. It works like a charm.
Golly. I spanked my granddaughter yesterday. The parents don’t object, since I’m the only one she obeys...
“Even Benjamin Spock admitted that he was totally wrong before he died!
Spare the rod and spoil the child is still true!
By a curious coincidence, T. Berry Brazleton was my wife’s pediatrician for our first child. And we got to know Benjamin Spock later from several encounters in the summer islands of Maine.
Nevertheless, we spanked our children occasionally, when it seemed the thing to do. It can be overdone. But, no question, many or most modern parents fail to discipline their children, and have done so ever since the cultural revolution of the 70s. It is well intentioned, but true love for their welfare requires that they learn discipline when they are younger, and in due course from that, self-dicipline.
But it is hard to expect that they will grow up self-disciplined when their parents and perhaps grandparents are not.
There is a difference between corporal punishment and assault, but since Eric Holder’s people are incapable of discerning the difference, zero tolerance must prevail.
I spanked all my kids - - once or twice each, at most. If you do it early, after that the threat alone is good enough because they know you will follow through.
Social animals “spank” their offspring. They will swat or nip at a little one just enough to get its attention and to make it behave. And with good reason. A little critter that doesn’t pay attention to the mother won’t get its share of the food or might become food for another critter.
Also, there is a huge downside to playing psychological games: Kids often draw exactly the wrong conclusion. A spanking inherently makes them realize they have a choice. Many non-physical punishments may be ambiguous. Withdrawal of a privilege, for example, may often be necessary when no discipline is needed. Time-outs confuse the issue when children need to be still and quiet.
Often manipulation makes them avoid the choice altogether. They do what you want because you steered them in that direction. They don't learn that some choices are inherently wrong.
I have also seen children draw the conclusion that they are inherently flawed in such a way that they are incapable of making a correct choice.
A spanking lets them deal with the world the way it is in a way that even young children can understand: Make good choices or suffer consequences. That not only marks the distinction between right and wrong, but smart and not smart.
Any discussion of corporal punishment should include the concept of individualized approach.
Each child is different, and each should be treated differently.
The biggest obstacle to rational analysis is that parents are becoming dumber.(generally)
It is a bad scene when the children are smarter than their parents.
Designer has observed that some kids need it, some don't. Some situations demand it, some call for more of a casual response. There is an age at which spanking is no longer effective. Miss that early training stage, and the opportunity is lost.
I never had to spank my son, but I gave up even thinking about spanking him when he got big enough to hunt bears with a switch.
His big joke now is “Remember, I’ll choose your nursing home. How would you like to spend out your days at The Frigidaire Arms in a refrigerator box?” Takes after his mother.
When we’re at a restaurant, my children sit quietly, or join in our conversation, and do not run around the place bothering other people. Other couple’s children run around the place.
When we’re at a store, my children follow us (or occasionally lead to the next aisle). Other couple’s children go where they please and play with toys in the middle of the aisles.
When we’re at the doctor’s office, my children wait patiently for their name to be called. Other children play loudly and annoy the other patients.
When we’re driving some place, my children sit buckled in their seats and either watch out the window or talk quietly with one another. Other children climb all over the car and dance to the music, waiting for the head-on collision that will kill them.
When my kids meet someone for the first time they respond with Yes Mam/Sir and No Mam/Sir.
Right, spanking does absolutely no good for your children as evidenced by 99% of the children I see out and about.
Son (antikev on FR) has a Master of Science in Mechanical Engineering, a job, and is as conservative as I am. He has several aviation tickets including glider instructor and was, at one time, the youngest pilot in our city. He talks about getting his Phd. Daughter is in third year Bachelor of Science, Nursing and has a job. She wants to be an MD.
Oh, and they come from a broken home. I left their mother when he was 14 and she was 9. They both came to live with me at 14. I don't know if spanking more would have helped them achieve more. I kind of doubt it.
It's kind of luck of the draw. Some kids you can reason with, some, you can't.
Spanking and beating are two different concepts. A swat on the tush is sometimes needed to get a child’s attention. I have swatted all three of mine on occasion. That being said, I have NEVER used a belt or other hard object. I also never swatted anywhere other than the butt. I have always believed the phrase, “Never hit a child in the face, God has provided a better place”.