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Federal Agents Demand Customer Lists From Mormon Food Storage Facility [Oathkeepers pulls story]
Oath Keepers ^ | 12/8/2011

Posted on 12/09/2011 9:27:14 AM PST by Just4Him

Edited on 12/12/2011 7:54:07 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

We have pulled this story about the Mormon cannery being visited by federal agents because the source of the information at the cannery is now denying that he ever told us that event occurred.

From now on, we will NOT post any such story based on what we are told by other people unless, and until, they are willing to go on video or at least on an audio recording with their info. That way, in case someone starts to crumble under the public attention or other pressures, and wants to deny what they told us, we have video or audio proof.

We get all kinds of scary intel, all the time, and we rarely pass it on because we don’t have confirming documentation. In this case, we were relying on a confirmed eye witness who is now denying it. We will not do that again without a recording.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: areyouready; cannibalism; chihuahuastew; esp; fema; femapamphlet; flyingsaucers; foodstorage; lds; lizardpie; magicherbs; mindcontrol; mormons; preppers; schoolassignment; survival; telekinesis
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To: Gaffer
Piecemeal would not work. They would be playing a game of whack-a-mole with fewer and more demoralized survivors at the end of each operation. The cost of failure would be theirs and in the long run it would be total. They would go the way of Versailles' Swiss Guards in 1789. At the end of the war in 1945, Wehrmacht units were engaged in fire fights with the Waffen SS. Four Alpha teams sent to assassinate Yeltsin defected to him. Nicolae Ceaușescu was betrayed by his own pilot, and executed by his own military. Things like that would happen here too, as institutions fractured from within. They don't have the bodies, the budget or the skill to effect such a scenario although they may try. I agree with you on the bad faith and ill intent of what 'they' desire, but I am convinced it will end like Haman's gallows for them though should they decide to dance.
101 posted on 12/09/2011 1:11:15 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Think about it before blabbing your liberal-like anti-American rant! Last time I opened FR is says in bold letters “ Free Republic, America’s exclusive site for God, Family, Country, Life & Liberty”.


102 posted on 12/09/2011 1:17:25 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

#75: The links worked earlier. In fact, I bookmarked it because it had links to other survival sites. When I returned to it after seeing complaints about them not working, it wouldn’t work for me.


103 posted on 12/09/2011 1:19:31 PM PST by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: SargeK
I, like you and a few others, am not going to hit the roof without some kind of verification of this.

But, for the record, Mormons have cannery sites that are used to put up food by members of the church. Non-members can use the equipment by appointment during times that it is not being utilized by Mormons.

I've never known them to sell the food they preserve, but I am not an expert on the subject.

104 posted on 12/09/2011 1:20:35 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: X-spurt

okey dokey, excrement spurt!


105 posted on 12/09/2011 1:20:35 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Psalm 144

Whack-a-mole is based on dealing with one emergent at a time. While frustrating for the whacker and fun for the mole, the collective moles are constrained to a lesser harassment role and not one of true wide-spread resistance.


106 posted on 12/09/2011 1:22:00 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Just4Him

My response: “Have you got a warrant?”


107 posted on 12/09/2011 1:27:08 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Rannug

About one in four U.S. Marines would be willing to fire upon American citizens in a government gun confiscation program

And in conversation over a period of twenty years with active duty personnel, one in three will shoot on the spot the one in four that would participate in a gun confiscation program and the officer that ordered that.


108 posted on 12/09/2011 1:32:34 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I learn something new every day.

Thanks!


109 posted on 12/09/2011 1:37:22 PM PST by SargeK
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To: Just4Him
The manager informed the agents that the facility kept no such records and that all transactions were conducted on a cash-and-carry basis.

This part makes me wonder if the report is false. (I hope so, but I don't know.) How many businesses are cash only?

110 posted on 12/09/2011 2:25:11 PM PST by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: Psalm 144
I agree with everything you say, but I have this I wish to add:

Obama has set up three things to aid him in killing white folk and establishing his dictatorship: he has allowed massive Muslim immigration; he has opened the southern border ever wider using the greed of farmers and construction firms as leverage; and, he has directed the DOJ not to pursue black criminals in crimes against whites.

He will not have the wholehearted support of the entire military, nor will he have the 100% support of government policing forces. Not everyone working in the DOJ will support the destruction of the United States.

111 posted on 12/09/2011 2:28:37 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I see your point. Link no longer working...need more info. However, this link works:

Post 30 and post 68.


112 posted on 12/09/2011 2:41:33 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Psalm 144
They don't have the bodies, the budget or the skill to effect such a scenario although they may try.

Historically, tyrannies have made examples of a few to gain the compliance of many. For example, imagine they hanged a few "hoarders" and left their bodies hanging in the town square with a "hoarder" sign on each body. It would not be long before many people were turning in their stockpiles. By such tactics, few can control many. These tactics don't usually work 100% but they can have a big effect.

113 posted on 12/09/2011 2:49:02 PM PST by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
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To: LucyT; All

Back in the day, clinton issued executive orders for FEMA. NO ONE IS TO HAVE OVER THREE DAYS OF STORED FOOD, NO GARDENS OVER A CERTAIN SIZE. And if a national emergency is declared, you must turn over the keys to your residence to FEMA personnel and evacuate to a central location. Your foodstores will be confiscated for redistribution. Weapons will be confiscated and the National Guard deployed in anticipation of riots.
No need for ‘new’ laws.
As far as I know, those orders have never been repealed.


114 posted on 12/09/2011 2:50:49 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: matt1234

“Historically, tyrannies have made examples of a few to gain the compliance of many. For example, imagine they hanged a few “hoarders” and left their bodies hanging in the town square with a “hoarder” sign on each body.”

That works two ways. For instance the Commissar of the Hoarding Prevention Agency returns to his house at the end of the day and shouts “Honey! Kids! I am back from today’s hangings! Lets go catch a movie or something.” In the ensuing silence, the commissar notices that his family’s guts have been used to garland the Christmas tree.

Civil wars work that way. When food is seized as a means of control, the struggle has become existential. At that point all bets are off, and no weapon or action is beyond the pale.

We are the most fractious and best armed and informed body of citizens in human history. Whatever is needed to frustrate a hypothetical dictatorship will be employed.


115 posted on 12/09/2011 3:26:16 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: All

Guys, just wanted to clear something up. The school project thing had nothing to do with me or my family. It came up on another forum, on the same thread topic.

I would never allow any of my children participate in a “project” like that.

:)


116 posted on 12/09/2011 3:47:28 PM PST by Just4Him (The truth shall set you free. John 8:32)
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To: Kartographer
Related link:

ATTENTION PREPPERS - Having More Than 7 Days Of Food Makes You A Suspected Terrorist

117 posted on 12/09/2011 3:48:54 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

This was NOT my family. Did y’all check out the link?


118 posted on 12/09/2011 3:52:55 PM PST by Just4Him (The truth shall set you free. John 8:32)
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To: Just4Him

What do people think the Federal Bureau of Intimidation does?


119 posted on 12/09/2011 3:56:36 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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