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Carrie Fisher slams William Shatner's claims Star Trek is better than Star Wars
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 17 Nov 2011 | Mike Larkin

Posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:32 PM PST by smokingfrog

It is the debate that has been raging between generations of science fiction fans.

But Star Trek star William Shatner believed he had delivered the coup de grace two months ago when he delivered a stinging critique he thought proved his franchise was superior.

But there is a new hope for Star Wars fans, as original cast member Carrie Fisher has struck back with a rebuke that could return the Jedi-filled universe back to prominence.

In a somewhat rambling YouTube video, the Princess Leia star let rip on the rival sci fi favourite.

She said: 'They are not in the same league. i mean they have the word star in the title, and there is space travel.

'Where do they go to, Klingon? It just sounds like a laundry detergent.'

The successful actress and author had a list of grievances with the television and movie franchise that she said made it inferior, including lacklustre visuals, make-up, toys and video games.

She said: 'Show me a special effect, maybe they are just effects, they are not called special effects.

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: carriefisher; shatner; showbiz; startrek; starwars
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

In the late 1960’s when it came out it was pretty good!


41 posted on 11/18/2011 10:29:54 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Darkwolf377
The characters acted like adults—I could imagine Landau’s character watching one of Kirk’s histrionic explosions and saying “Calm down.”

Until producer Fred Freiberger from ST Season 3 came to Space:1999 Season 2 and tried to turn Koenig into Kirk.

Game over.

42 posted on 11/18/2011 10:30:16 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: ThomasThomas

Best sci-fi show?

There are lots of fan favorites.

I would say its the remake of Battlestar Galactica.

Then Fringe and the X-Files.

Great shows.


43 posted on 11/18/2011 10:31:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: writer33

Did I tell you my thoughts on Yoda? LOL!


44 posted on 11/18/2011 10:31:56 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: smokingfrog

Back in the day, the first couple Star Wars were the only movies I ever stood in line for. After those and especially with the recent chapters, blah, can’t be bothered to watch them on tv.

With Star Trek, much like The Three Stooges, must require a certain mind set to appreciate. One is too ridiculous to watch, the other is too moronic to watch.


45 posted on 11/18/2011 10:32:52 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Monica Lewinsky?


46 posted on 11/18/2011 10:33:46 PM PST by MissouriConservative (Perry 2012)
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To: buccaneer81

Season 1 was good, but Season 2 was too soft and attempted to be character-oriented. I don’t see the Freiberger-Koenig as being anything like Kirk, though, nor was there an attempt. Koenig was devoted to one girlfriend in the series, bed-hopping, didn’t engage in the weekly histriionics, and just seemed more adult. The US funders of the show wanted him, and he ruined the show. I have no idea how Fred “Show-Killer” Freiberger had a career in a genre he had no feeling for.


47 posted on 11/18/2011 10:35:12 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Darkwolf377

[ And Forbidden Planet made Star Trek possible. ]

Thats also true.. That movie made the genre..
Amazing with what they had to work with...
Even now its almost believable..
Any thats not seen it... should...


48 posted on 11/18/2011 10:35:27 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: buccaneer81

Die, scum!!!!!! LOL!

They were both good at the time. Now, it depends on my mood.


49 posted on 11/18/2011 10:35:56 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: buccaneer81

“Season One of Space:1999 was magnificent compared to ST and SW.”

After that, not so much...
I think they ran out of ideas.

I think the Original 70’s “UFO” may have been the greatest sci-fi of the modern era, especially given the tech at the time, and the futuristic mind of Garry Anderson to pull it off.


50 posted on 11/18/2011 10:36:47 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

How about that! I had no idea this could even exist. Great!


51 posted on 11/18/2011 10:36:56 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Explorer89

The best Star Trek Episodes were the Mirror Universe ones.


52 posted on 11/18/2011 10:37:36 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: smokingfrog

Star Trek was one of the original commie dogma shows.

Pray for America


53 posted on 11/18/2011 10:39:10 PM PST by bray (Take the Cain Train off the Plantation)
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To: RingerSIX; fieldmarshaldj
>> 'Where do they go to, Klingon? It just sounds like a laundry detergent.'
I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I'd still like to point out that if I were a Star Wars backer I'd avoid calling attention to silly names... just sayin'. <<

Heh. You're right. Since Carrie Fisher is from the franchise that brought you "wookies" and "Mace Windu", I wouldn't start bashing Star Trek over silly names. Actually, being a Trek fan, they've never gone to the planet 'Klingon' at all. There is no such planet in Star Trek. The Klingon homeworld is called Qo'noS. Nice try, Carrie.

54 posted on 11/18/2011 10:40:40 PM PST by BillyBoy (Rick Perry, the governor with a heart... for illegal aliens.)
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To: tcrlaf
Really?

Check out Anna Torv's Olivia Dunham on Fringe Season 3. Really remarkable acting. Played three characters!

I don't want to give away the ending, because its a really good cliffhanger!

55 posted on 11/18/2011 10:41:37 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Boogieman

Roddenberry’s left-wing outlook showed in many episodes.


56 posted on 11/18/2011 10:41:40 PM PST by Misterioso
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To: hosepipe

I saw Forbidden Planet again recently, and it is just a wonderful movie—I use that description intentionally. The music (which was made by creating circuits and recording what happened when electricity was sent through them—what you hear is the sound of the circuits “dying” as they burn out), art direction, script, effects—everything is meant to create that ‘sense of wonder’ that attracts some of us to SF as kids.

Few SF movies really tap into this and it’s a shame. So many SF movies are just action movies in space, when they could be so much more.


57 posted on 11/18/2011 10:41:56 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: goldstategop

Best sci-fi show?

Red Dwarf!
SMEG.


58 posted on 11/18/2011 10:43:06 PM PST by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: Darkwolf377
Star Trek The Motion Picture was made to cash in on the Star Wars craze.

It was only able to do that because so much had been invested in "Star Trek Phase II" starting in June, 1977. Paramount was looking at launching a TV network even back then (remember UPN in the '90s?) 13 Scripts were written, a slightly redesigned Enterprise was built and all the cast minus Nimoy signed on. To replace Spock, a new Vulcan named Xon was to be introduced:

The Phase II Enterprise:

Ilia in old style uniform:


59 posted on 11/18/2011 10:43:45 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: smokingfrog
The most important news is lost in this tongue-and-cheek bickering between Shatner and Fischer is this...

***** NEW WILLIAM SHATNER ALBUM IS OUT *****

Featuring songs such as Bohemian Rhapsody and other timeless classics. YouTube it!

60 posted on 11/18/2011 10:44:12 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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