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Gingrich Takes The Lead (Was the candidate to beat Obama there all along?)
Public Policy Polling ^ | November 14, 2011 | Tom Jensen

Posted on 11/14/2011 1:50:04 PM PST by Patrick1

Newt Gingrich has taken the lead in PPP's national polling. He's at 28% to 25% for Herman Cain and 18% for Mitt Romney. The rest of the Republican field is increasingly looking like a bunch of also rans: Rick Perry is at 6%, Michele Bachmann and Ron Paul at 5%, Jon Huntsman at 3%, and Gary Johnson and Rick Santorum each at 1%.

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To: Patrick1

I am starting to get real uneasy about 2012. Here we have probably the most flawed incumbent in the history of the Republic, and Gingrich is the best we can run against him?

I’m also really pissed @ Mitch Daniels, Haley Barbour, Chris Christie, and yes, Sarah too, for staying on the sidelines.


21 posted on 11/14/2011 2:08:35 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: TBBT

BS

The MSM has got 2 whole months to destroy Gingrich. And unlike the lies they’ve tried to smear Cain with, there’s actual baggage with Gingrich.

I know what you people are thinking. That Newt’s going to take Obama behind the woodshed in the 3 debates next year? Oh really, you mean the same way he took John Kerry behind the woodshed in a debate on climate change?

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265073,00.html

Newt has the same problem as Romney, a lack of trust.


22 posted on 11/14/2011 2:08:50 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: humblegunner

The poll is on the sited PPP website.

I’m the author of this post.

thanks.


23 posted on 11/14/2011 2:10:45 PM PST by Patrick1 (" Let's all pray Kim Kardashian's divorce won't have an impact on her craft.")
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To: Patrick1

Long way to go. Real test is fund raising. Last I heard Cain is sustsaining the momentum he enjoyed last week when conservatives collectively and loudly gave the finger to the RINO and demrat faux scandal. More importantly they sent him lots of money.

Got a new accuser this week. I have to ante up to Cain again. I have pledged to donate each time Cain’s opponents invent a new “witness”.

The scandal ploy failed. Now their going back to the oucome based poll ploy. On to it. Not impressed.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 2:13:43 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: Patrick1

Long way to go. Real test is fund raising. Last I heard Cain is sustsaining the momentum he enjoyed last week when conservatives collectively and loudly gave the finger to the RINO and demrat faux scandal. More importantly they sent him lots of money.

Got a new accuser this week. I have to ante up to Cain again. I have pledged to donate each time Cain’s opponents invent a new “witness”.

The scandal ploy failed. Now their going back to the oucome based poll ploy. On to it. Not impressed.


25 posted on 11/14/2011 2:13:50 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: Patrick1

Long way to go. Real test is fund raising. Last I heard Cain is sustsaining the momentum he enjoyed last week when conservatives collectively and loudly gave the finger to the RINO and demrat faux scandal. More importantly they sent him lots of money.

Got a new accuser this week. I have to ante up to Cain again. I have pledged to donate each time Cain’s opponents invent a new “witness”.

The scandal ploy failed. Now their going back to the oucome based poll ploy. On to it. Not impressed.


26 posted on 11/14/2011 2:14:04 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: Patrick1

We are running out of people on any of those items you listed”

That is precisely the problem.

We can all moan about how there is not this or that in this field.

But there are only a few realistic non-Romney choices left now. Strangely, Newt is one of them.


27 posted on 11/14/2011 2:16:32 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

I’m also really pissed @ Mitch Daniels, Haley Barbour, Chris Christie, and yes, Sarah too, for staying on the sidelines.”

Don’t forget Jindal, John Thune and probably many others....


28 posted on 11/14/2011 2:18:54 PM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Patrick1
Negative.

You listed yourself as the author.

Public Policy Polling ^ | 11/14/2011 | Patrick1

See? Right after the date? That's the box for the author.

You claim authorship.

29 posted on 11/14/2011 2:19:16 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Patrick1
President Cain with Newt as VP is not my first choice but I’ll take it.

Would much prefer Cain/Huck ’12 ..with Newt as Press Secretary.

Btw, fun tweets today you must admit:

Romney 48/39 fav is 6 month low. Just not capitalizing at all 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Romney over the last 5 months- July 20%, August 20%, September 18%, October 22%, November 18% 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Blame media game keeping Cain from sinking - 61% of GOPers think it has been ‘mostly unfair’ 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Why Cain is still at 25%? – 54% of GOP voters continue to think accusations against him are ‘mostly false’ 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Cain voters love Newt, don’t care for Romney or Perry… 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Why Newtmentum might continue- fav with Cain voters is 73/21, compared to 33/55 for Mitt 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

30 posted on 11/14/2011 2:20:17 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: kreitzer

Exactly. The GOP and the MSM want Romney, but they would also love Newt. The only hope we have of a conservative winning the election is to nominate Cain.


31 posted on 11/14/2011 2:20:31 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: humblegunner

Sue me.


32 posted on 11/14/2011 2:22:47 PM PST by Patrick1 (" Let's all pray Kim Kardashian's divorce won't have an impact on her craft.")
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To: Patrick1

What I think is that Republicans
1.HAVE TO get behind a legitimate candidate and do it QUICKLY
2. THAT candidate will either be CAIN, ROMNEY or GINGRICH.
3.The MSM has made it clear FOR TWO YEARS, through spin with varying degress of subtlety,that ROMNEY is their candidate.
4. The Left has ALSO made it clear that Romney is their candidate, for the seemingly contradictory reasons that
he’s the most “moderate” and also doesn’t offer enough of a
contrast to Obama to make much of a difference. This is a big gamble on their part, but you can see their reasoning.
5. NO ONE will win the nomination without the Tea Party vote, and so far Cain is the only one who’s captured that,
his “sexual scandals” notwithstanding.
6. Everyone must also recognize by now that the Left is trading on the “baggage” both Gingrich and Cain carry is
enough to render them “unelectable”. This fits perfectly into the ongoing objective of making Romney the nominee.
7. NOBODY seems to have learned the lessons of the last election , which was, regardless of defeats, a huge success for this vast new constituency known as the Tea Party.
Cain’s unprecedented showing so far is owing precisely to this constituency, even as it looks like his “baggage” has been engineered to make him drop in the polls.
8. A Romney victory in primaries will create as much chaos
(though strictly of a political sort) in the Body Politic
as Obama being elected to the Presidency.
9. I have NO substantial idea how Romney could win the primaries except through a careful courting of “Independents” and/or disgruntled Obama voters looking
for someone to put a new faxe on what will basically be a continuation of sorts of Obama’s policies. Obama himself has been thoroughly discredited.
10. Last but not least, everyone also recognizes that Gingrich as a debater is what’s needed to destroy Obama.
He is the ONLY one confident and well-equipped enough to do that.He’s also the ONLY one calling for a whole series of serious debates which are designed to do just htat.
He will prove to be the ANTI-Obama if he can pull it off:
answering all the pseudo-idealistic piffle that got Obama elected, with real-world policy expertise.


33 posted on 11/14/2011 2:23:12 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: Reddy

Amen


34 posted on 11/14/2011 2:23:27 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: TBBT

A write in. If this country needs to go to hell and back to recover it’s original glory as a Republic, so be it.

I have no problem standing on the front lines.


35 posted on 11/14/2011 2:23:44 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: humblegunner

I love the kinder, gentler version of you. =)


36 posted on 11/14/2011 2:26:53 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Patrick1

Then you need to write in “none” or “no author”.

Otherwise, it’s just stealing.


37 posted on 11/14/2011 2:29:18 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Patrick1

No Newt is good Newt.


38 posted on 11/14/2011 2:29:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Patrick1

Newt is a smart man, but he’s a one-worlder, and still believes in AGW.

He is also a beltway insider.

If he were sincere, which I don’t think he is, he could get a lot done.

He is just being put up by the elites to divide the conservative vote.

IMO, Newt stands no chance of winning the election.

Neither does Mitt.

I believe that’s the plan handed down from the elites.

The Republicans are determined to run another loser in the next election.


39 posted on 11/14/2011 2:30:20 PM PST by Westbrook
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To: Patrick1
Here's my prediction! If Cain tanks and Gingrich takes the sustained lead, he's next on the unfounded accusations scene. From other dalliances (real or not) to Callista's former boyfriends (with one or two 'real' married ones)....

Only the nasty claims, founded or not, will be operative and the 'seriousness' of the charges will prevail.

Meanwhile, Romney will go untouched [save the MormonISM zealots here at FR]......

40 posted on 11/14/2011 2:30:22 PM PST by Gaffer
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