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U.S. LENDS $1,000,000,000 TO RUSSIA; STALIN FORECASTS SECOND FRONT (11/7/41)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 11/7/41 | Bertram D. Hulen, Daniel T. Brigham, George Axelsson

Posted on 11/07/2011 4:42:14 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread
1 posted on 11/07/2011 4:42:14 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Advance on Moscow – Operations, 26 August-5 December 1941
The Mediterranean Basin
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – Major Japanese War Objectives and Planned Opening Attacks
2 posted on 11/07/2011 4:43:03 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Gordon W. Prange, At Dawn We Slept

3 posted on 11/07/2011 4:44:39 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
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Winston S. Churchill, The Grand Alliance

4 posted on 11/07/2011 4:45:32 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Soviet Gets Credit – 2-3
Premier Confident – 3-4
The International Situation – 3
Russians Gaining Around Moscow – 4-5
British Hear of Damage to Nazi Battleship Tirpitz – 5
Stalin Appoints Litvinoff Ambassador to Washington – 5
Germans Report Capture of Tula – 7
Nazis Recalling Planes in Russia – 7-8
Goebbels Warns Reich of ‘Inferno’ if She Loses the ‘Hard War’ Ahead – 8
U.S. Submarine Comes Up for Air in Fog Off New England Coast (photo) – 9
Toll Rises to 100 on Reuben James – 10
Corvette that Bagged Two U-Boats is Lost; Big Motorship Torpedoed in South Atlantic – 10
The Texts of the Day’s War Communiques – 11
5 posted on 11/07/2011 4:46:55 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/nov41/f07nov41.htm

Bomber Command strikes German cities
Friday, November 7, 1941 www.onwar.com

Over Germany... British Bomber Command conducts nighttime raids on Berlin, Cologne and Mannheim with about 300 bombers. A total of 37 aircraft are lost. Poor weather contributes to the number of aircraft losses.

In Moscow... Stalin reviews a military parade and predicts the fall of Nazi Germany within 12 months.


6 posted on 11/07/2011 4:50:14 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/07.htm

November 7th, 1941

GERMANY: U-419 laid down. (Dave Shirlaw)

U.S.S.R.: Minsk: 12,000 Jews are slaughtered and buried in mass graves outside the city.

Soviet submarine S-56 commissioned. (Dave Shirlaw)

COMMONWEALTH OF THE PHILIPPINES: MacArthur informs Hart that he will not accept Navy control of patrol flights. Hart requests guidance from Navy Department on mobilization and deployment plans. No answer was received. (Marc Small)

U.S.A.: Secretary of State Hull warned the United States Cabinet that relations with Japan were extremely critical.

Escort carrier HMS Nairana laid down. (Dave Shirlaw)

ATLANTIC OCEAN: U-74 sank SS Nottingham. (Dave Shirlaw)


7 posted on 11/07/2011 4:53:15 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Did they ever pay those war debt back?


8 posted on 11/07/2011 5:26:26 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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November 5-6, 1941:

"Seventeen thousand Jews are killed outside Rovno, Ukraine".

"The Germans drive 7000 Jews from the Minsk (Belorussia) Ghetto to a pit dug into the still-frigid soil outside the city.
The Nazis murdered them with firearms.
Not satisfied with killing the adults, the Germans tossed the children into the pit alive and suffocated them."


November 6, 1941:

"Popular German film star Joachim Gottschalk kills his family and himself rather than submit to the deportation and probable deaths of his Jewish wife and child."

The Jews of Finland

"The Jews of Finland found themselves in a bizarre situation with the outbreak of World War II.
Despite the Nazis' war on Europe's Jews, Finland's alliance with Germany caused over 300 Finnish Jews to fight alongside German soldiers on the Eastern Front, while Jewish women served in the country's civil defense corps.

"Finland's Jewish community numbered only about 2000 (including almost 300 refugees from Germany and Austria), and antisemitism was practically nonexistent in the country.
Finnish Jews had full rights as equal citizens.
Most of the refugees were housed in labor camps, where they lived in barracks.

"When Heinrich Himmler broached the subject of Finnish Jews, the country's prime minister, Johann Wilhelm Rangell, curtly replied that Finland had no "Jewish problem."
Valuing Finland's military cooperation against the Soviet Union, the Nazis applied no further pressure.

"In the autumn of 1942, however, eight Jewish refugees were handed over to the Gestapo.
Transported to the extermination camp at Auschwitz, Poland, all but one of the refugees perished.
Lengthy negotiations with the Swedish government secured the transfer of 160 other refugees to that neutral country.
The remaining refugees, along with almost all Jewish-Finnish citizens, survived the war--except for a few Jewish soldiers who died in battle fighting for the German cause.



9 posted on 11/07/2011 6:15:35 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: fishtank

Need you ask?

Interesting how Stalin “predicts second front” after he get a big ol’ whopping check from the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!


10 posted on 11/07/2011 6:17:02 AM PST by marychesnutfan
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
obviously not this Grampus but an intersting story none the less. didnt know US had submarines as early as 1903

USS Grampus, a 107-ton Plunger (later A-1) class submarine, was built at San Francisco, California. She was commissioned in late May 1903 and operated in the San Francisco Bay region until November 1906, when she was laid up at the Mare Island Navy Yard.

Returned to commissioned status in June 1908, Grampus served along the California coast for four years. She was renamed A-3 in November 1911. In reserve at the Puget Sound Navy Yard after June 1912, in February 1915 the submarine was placed on board the collier Hector for transportation to the Philippines. Arriving at Olongapo in late March and placed in commission in April 1915, A-3 began some six years of Asiatic Fleet duty.

During the First World War she conducted patrols in the Manila Bay area. In July 1920, when the Navy formally implemented its hull number system, she was designated SS-4. USS A-3 was decommissioned at Cavite Navy Yard in July 1921, stricken from the Navy list in January 1922 and sunk as a target in Manila Bay.

11 posted on 11/07/2011 6:36:35 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: fishtank

Not likely. Didn’t take Uncle Joe long after the end of WWll to go into the Cold War.

If my recollection is correct, Finland is the only country that ever paid off a war debt to the US.


12 posted on 11/07/2011 6:39:00 AM PST by Western Phil
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

the Grampus mentioned here:

apparantly sunk in the solomons later in the war, although never confirmed how or exactly where for sure. all hands lost.

i always find it terribly sad to see the pictures of the boats and men on launching or in this case on patrol, that were later lost.


13 posted on 11/07/2011 6:52:07 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

A few items:

1. That “great man”, the Mufti of Jerusalem is visiting Berlin. Wonder what a purveyor of the “religion of peace” wants to do with the Nazis.

2. $2.59 seems really high for a gallon of Prestone antifreeze. Inflation calculator says that would be $39.98 today.

3. The Bismarck, mentioned in passing in the Tirpitz story, is already old news in this still early stage of the war.


14 posted on 11/07/2011 7:40:13 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: marychesnutfan

Speaking of second fronts, it’s nice to see the Grand Mufti is doing well in Berlin.


15 posted on 11/07/2011 7:52:54 AM PST by freefdny
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

One month to Pearl Harbor. Thanks Homer for this fascinating daily look at what the thoughts were at the time. The lies Stalin told are amazing. I read it every day and don’t thank you enough.


16 posted on 11/07/2011 7:59:48 AM PST by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

That’s over $15T in today’s dollars—just about our current national debt.


17 posted on 11/07/2011 8:03:40 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: marychesnutfan

If this was a Civil War project instead of WWII I would excerpt Mary Chestnut’s diary.


18 posted on 11/07/2011 8:58:40 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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BBC - Winston Churchil on the Resolution of the British People
19 posted on 11/07/2011 10:13:28 AM PST by CougarGA7 (Sauron was just trying to get his land back.)
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9YearLurker: "That’s over $15T in today’s dollars—just about our current national debt."

Not quite.
Depending on how you figure it, $1 billion in 1941 equates to about $115 billion today, in terms of the nation's GDP.

In today's terms, US debt in 1941 was about $7 trillion, or less than half of today's.

By war's end in 1945 it rose to $18 trillion of today's money, or about 20% higher than today.

So the $1 billion of 1941 dollars was a substantial sum -- especially to the Soviets, whose wage scales were somewhat lower.
But in terms of the total cost of the war, it was a drop in the bucket.

And in today's terms, far less than an Obama "stimulus" and about the level of a mid-sized bailout for a big Democrat contributor.

20 posted on 11/07/2011 10:22:35 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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