Posted on 10/25/2011 9:01:39 PM PDT by Randy Larsen
This "Cain Train" took off right after Sarah Palin decided she would not run for the Republican nomination for president.
Since then I've noticed that Herman Cain fears no one to the right of him and seems to cherish the fight with those he considers to be to his left(politically speaking).
Do you think that Herman Cain is the (CAIN+PALIN) express because of his conservative values?
Can Herman Cain win if Palin won't endorse a candidate in the primaries?
Do you believe Herman Cain has proven to be equal or better than Palin as a conservative?
Finally, Why as Herman Cain risen so fast while Perry has plunged in the polls?
Cain couldn’t hold Palin’s jockstrap.
Cain took off when Palin dropped out only because the Palin base moved over to him. It’s not like we were going to go to Romney or Perry!
Herman Cain is a Bullsh!t artist with a happy face and a nice smile. A salesman who sells Pizza and Public Policy for Nine ninety-nine.
I think Palin was on balance more conservative than Cain but had weaknesses. I was afraid she would cave on Don't Ask Don't Tell or other Faggot Lib issues. She was for Title IX and bought in to a bit too much “Feminism” at the expense of feminine dignity per Thatcher, Rand, Schlafly, etc.
With all that said I still think Palin would have been the most conservative of the lot. Now I think Bachmann and Cain are the strongest to the Right. Cain should avoid talking about race because it takes him away from discussing the issues that will help put him up there on 1600.
Too bad she doesnt speak like Reagan. She’d be decimated in the debates anyway.
True, but he's also benefitting from the fact, that conservatives hate Romney, Bachman is dropping like a rock, and Perry stumbled badly in the debates, and the media was focusing on attacking him. He benefits off of this, and because he sounds very conservative. He can also be a vessel for people looking for someone who talks the talk, and has no record to disprove that they don't walk the walk. Lucky for him.
Since then I've noticed that Herman Cain fears no one to the right of him and seems to cherish the fight with those he considers to be to his left(politically speaking).
Not sure about that, he backtracked with the muslims, and he got caught up in some "miscommunication" on the abortion issue. I can't say he fears no one to his right, he hasn't had a whole lot of conservatives to really battle with. At least viable serious candidates.
Do you think that Herman Cain is the (CAIN+PALIN) express because of his conservative values? Its a good question, he's got a great record of talking like a conservative, but he has never, governed like one, in fact, outside of his speeches, there is no record that he is a conservative, just his own words. We assume he has our values, because he says he does, and there is no record that can contradict it, but there is also no record to verify it, and he has never had to be tested on how committed he is to those values.
Can Herman Cain win if Palin won't endorse a candidate in the primaries?
Anything is possible, but I don't think its likely, I think he may be this years Steve Forbes, so to speak.
Do you believe Herman Cain has proven to be equal or better than Palin as a conservative?
No, Palin was an experienced politician, she was a councilwoman, a mayor, and a governor, and she was and still is an outsider.
Cain is a former central banker who used to work for the Fed, supported TARP, and was also the senior economic advisor to Bob Doles presidential campaign. He has no governing record, and he has never had to put his commitment to his values to any kind of test, but he has been involved in the most establishment wing of the GOP, and was thought highly enough by Dole and Kemp to be given that kind of job.
Finally, Why as Herman Cain risen so fast while Perry has plunged in the polls?
Because Perry debates about as well as Obama runs an economy, and he sounds mighty soft in illegal immigration, which is much worse, then say supporting TARP in the eyes of voters, plus, Perry talks the conservative line, but has a pretty long political record, that can be combed, and a couple of misteps, Cain, has no record, so he can be a blank slate, to project on, what we want (and he'll tell you he is it).
Don’t really know. Cain seems conservative, in a somewhat generic, hard-to-really-pin-down way. I still have a lot of questions, to be honest. As for Palin, my support for her was because she was unique in exemplifying the absolute perfect mix of traditional conservatism, Western libertarianism, and Mid-American populism... which totally mirrors my own political philosophy like no other politician has in years. Hence, I’m not really finding a satisfying replacement candidate very easily.
I think I’m just going to sit back on the sidelines and let the primaries play out as they will. Looks like a slow-motion train-wreck to me, and I’m just not terribly inclined to be drawn into any of it.
It is a little hard to tell if Cain’s huge support is all pro-Cain or just a choice against Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum, etc..
Perry’s demise was entirely self inflicted by his pro-illegals stance and calling conservatives derogatory names. He’s done. He’s just too stupid to recognize that fact.
The primary now looks like a Cain-Romney race.
I don’t hear any great numbers waiting on an early Palin endorsement. In any case, it would be hard to imagine her endorsing anyone but Cain. She wouldn’t go Romney and the others are just very long shots.
Palin has a jockstrap??
Right now, he fits that bill.
Will someone else step up and swing for the fences?Let's see what they've got.
Being conservative is not only possible outside of holding political office, it is the statistical norm. Cain dropped a million of his own dollars into the promotion of prolife values. And he has lived his life according to the principles of meritocracy, not gimme-ocracy. That is the root of fiscal conservatism. The only area in which he is truly untested, IMHO, is foreign policy. But inasmuch as his life has been lived, on the record, as one who genuinely treasures his country, that puts him light years ahead of the current occupant of the WH.
Double dittos on that. Cain is no where near the conservative Palin is.
I remember another blank slate in 2008, and now he has just about ruined the country.
Also Cain was once a inside the DC beltway lobbyist, now he plays the role of an outsider.
Like hell she would.
I love your description: watching a “slow-motion train-wreck”...
I can't recall ever being emotionally detached in any prior presidential election, but detached is precisely what I am! I want the Marxist ousted and soundly defeated, -—it's imperative, but by whom? Not Romney! If he's the nominee, I'm writing-in Sarah Palin.
I met and got to personally speak with all 5 of our top tier candidates at the GOP debate in Tampa, in September. Herman Cain is very gracious, personable and of course, likeable.
His weakness is foreign policy and the first role of president is CIC, not the economy or job creation. Speaker Newt is likely the more qualified of all the candidates, particularly in foreign issues.
Herman Cain can most assuredly hire and staff the brightest and best conservative minds to help, advise and assist him in those areas.
There are only two people still running who are as conservative as Palin - Bachmann and Santorum - but neither has the “political charisma” Sarah has.
No conservative would back a sales tax in addition to an income tax....
Please list her conservative credentials so we have a way to put them up against Cain.
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