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Data point from one of our users: you can actually buy the entire new ad-subsidized Kindle lineup for less than the cost of a 32GB iPad.

1 posted on 09/28/2011 1:24:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not even that old and I still remember when this was a computer.

2 posted on 09/28/2011 1:28:18 PM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Also, 35 percent of respondents to a Staples survey said they use their tablets in the bathroom.

There's a special sensor. If you ever use it in the bathroom, the device becomes flagged and you won't be able to return it to the store.

6 posted on 09/28/2011 1:34:03 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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if apple drops their price by 200bucks, they will be ok.


9 posted on 09/28/2011 1:38:32 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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"I'm Steve Ballmer, and I approve this message."

12 posted on 09/28/2011 1:41:43 PM PDT by frankenMonkey (By God, we will not squander what has been given us!)
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If price were the ‘be-all’ then there wouldn’t be a market for the Mac, the iPhone or the iPod. People will pay for a quality product, and a quality experience. Always have, always will.

Now, I do think the kFire will be a popular seller - and as Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray is saying today “not a true competitor, but a more competitive than expected” and “Amazon is likely losing $50 on each unit it sells”.

So, how much marketshare can Amazon afford to buy? Meanwhile, Apple is showing several hundred dollars of profit on each unit it sells (ifixyour.com estimates the BOM on the 64 Gig wi-fi iPad at less than $280; it retails for $599).

Upside-great functionality, great price, nice looking.
Downside - small screen (only 7 inch), 7.5hr batter-life with video playback; less with wi-fi.

One important difference is the kFire line-up is a media consuming (zero productivity) suite; while the iPad can perform both tasks.


14 posted on 09/28/2011 1:43:32 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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A friend who is a huge Apple fan and always has been got an iPad a few months ago. He says it’s too big to really be much more portable than an apple laptop and really just good for entertainment type stuff. He doesn’t think it’s worth the money. I have to admit that 7” is a great size for portability while still getting movies and games at a good size and resolution. It’s a good portability “sweet spot”.

The article makes some very valid points about what features you are paying for vs what features you actually use.


15 posted on 09/28/2011 1:43:55 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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BTTT


16 posted on 09/28/2011 1:44:00 PM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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I like it. But unless I can get a 3g/4g version or I am able to use my USB 4g card, I can’t use it.


21 posted on 09/28/2011 1:52:58 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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“Fully half of tablet users are streaming video. We’re also traveling with them like crazy”

Hence he misses the key point of the iPad: ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.


22 posted on 09/28/2011 2:01:41 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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a HUGE mistake for leaving off the camera


23 posted on 09/28/2011 2:02:28 PM PDT by Mr. K (Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
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I’ll read Walt Mossberg’s review before deciding.

Question: do these things require contracts (along with monthly fees) with wireless providers?


26 posted on 09/28/2011 2:09:36 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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This is not a table; it’s a POS/cash machine in disguise.


45 posted on 09/28/2011 2:56:11 PM PDT by adorno (<)
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This is not a tablet; it’s a POS/cash machine in disguise.


46 posted on 09/28/2011 2:56:40 PM PDT by adorno (<)
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This is not a tablet; it’s a POS/cash machine in disguise.


47 posted on 09/28/2011 2:56:53 PM PDT by adorno (<)
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A closed system? No thanks.


50 posted on 09/28/2011 3:20:48 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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I'd argue that it's an iPad killer all the same.

On paper, the Kindle Fire has half the features of the iPad. In fact, it's almost literally half the features--here's a handy comparison chart so you can see for yourself. There's no camera, front or rear; the 8GB of onboard storage is half the amount of the base-model iPad; the Fire has no cellular options, no built-in GPS, and no Bluetooth, as the iPad does. The software options compared to the iPad are minimal, and the app library for Android still isn't nearly as robust as the iOS app library. All true facts. Doesn't matter.




Half the teeth. Half the brains.
Half the features. Half the price.
A woman is a woman is a woman.
A tablet is a tablet is a tablet.
Anyone from a third world country is no different from anyone else from a third world country.

Doesn't matter?
58 posted on 09/28/2011 6:51:18 PM PDT by aruanan
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I can’t believe how many comments and harsh judgments on this and other similar threads are based on some silly and shallow political opinions. (I only used the word “political” as a generous gesture.) So you hate Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft? Facebook too, goes without saying. Yawn! How do you survive in this wicked world? There are plenty of reasons to hate your grocery supermarket, the oil company that produces your gasoline, the bagel bakery, Coca Cola, but yes, Pepsi as well, the dairy, the chicken factory, the vitamin maker, and your blood pressure medication Big Pharma manufacturer, among all others. Perhaps you’re terribly uninformed if you are not yet dissing and boycotting all those, and not starving yourself to death in protest. And don’t you hate Fruit of the Loom too? Do us all a favour, huh?!


60 posted on 09/28/2011 11:05:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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Is the Amazon Kindle Fire an Apple iPad killer?—PING!


Apple iPad Killer PING!

Please, No Flame Wars
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

61 posted on 09/29/2011 1:51:18 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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According to a recent Citigroup survey, the vast majority of tablet users use these devices primarily for lightweight entertainment: mostly casual gaming, Web browsing, e-mail, and, increasingly, e-books.

Valid point. However, these demographics will change as casual users discover other uses. That's already starting to happen, as professionals such as teachers, doctors, lawyers etc. are using iPads for business purposes.

I find my iPad extremely useful as a portable reference library for my woodworking, automotive and electronics hobbies. Instead of leafing thru hardbound books, I pull up relevant PDFs or training videos on my iPad, right next to whatever I'm working on whether in the garage or in an outside workshop. I used to rely on a microfiche reader for parts and reference lookup on my vintage car hobby. Now the entire microfiche is available on my iPad for ready reference, and grease doesn't bother the virtual keyboard.

75 posted on 09/29/2011 10:30:13 AM PDT by roadcat
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I wish the lazy tech press would stop looking for an Apple “killer.” There isn’t one, and there’s unlikely to be one. None of the “iPhone killers” lived up to that title — but android phones have taken the larger share of the market collectively. I’d expect much the same thing with tablets.

What Amazon did was take all of the limitations people complained about with the original iPad, steer into the skid, and drop the price point to something no one (with the exception of unusable crap) can come close to matching. Too closed, no camera, no productivity apps, too little storage, no SD slot. Add to that no Bluetooth, no GPS, no cellular option, lower (no 720p) resolution, no video output.

The critique, largely unjustified, was that the iPad was only good for consuming content. The Fire embraces that. It is much more locked in to Amazon than the iPad is to Apple, for the strategic reason that Amazon is selling the tablet at a loss and counting on content sales to turn a profit.

Is this a successful strategy? Probably. It might make a bit of a dent in iPad sales numbers, but it’s fundamentally aiming at a different audience. Its (now hopelessly outclassed) competitors are the Nook Color, other e-readers, and — bear with me on this — those portable clamshell DVD players. This would be a killer device for entertaining kids in the back seat, and if you’re buying Amazon movies instead of DVDs, you can have your whole movie collection with you on vacation. Just pull into a truck stop with WiFi, and you can download another half-dozen movies and get back on the road.


80 posted on 09/29/2011 10:57:42 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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