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Drug War Clock
drugsense.org ^ | 9/19/2011 | various

Posted on 09/19/2011 7:30:21 AM PDT by eastforker

The U.S. federal government spent over $15 billion dollars in 2010 on the War on Drugs, at a rate of about $500 per second.

Source: Office of National Drug Control Policy

State and local governments spent at least another 25 billion dollars.

Source: Jeffrey A. Miron & Kathrine Waldock: "The Budgetary Impact of Drug Prohibition," 2010.

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People Arrested for Drug Law Offenses this Year

Arrests for drug law violations this year are expected to exceed the 1,663,582 arrests of 2009. Law enforcement made more arrests for drug abuse violations (an estimated 1.6 million arrests, or 13.0 percent of the total number of arrests) than for any other offense in 2009.

Someone is arrested for violating a drug law every 19 seconds.

Source: Uniform Crime Reports, Federal Bureau of Investigation

(Excerpt) Read more at drugsense.org ...


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; History; Society
KEYWORDS: clock; debt; dope; drugs; moneyspent; moneywasted; spending; wod
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To: count-your-change

AS a society we tolerate alcohol use and to some extent abuse, legaly prescribed pain killers and many other drugs that IMHO shouldn’t be. We also tolerate lethal prescribed drugs to terminal patients, if you don’t believe me you need to read up on hospice care.Because it is heavily taxed, tobacco is still sold, and we know of that potential danger.


21 posted on 09/19/2011 9:14:14 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: dead

Good as place as any to add tagline....


22 posted on 09/19/2011 9:21:08 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It's cute, but a little sad, how the similarity between the spellings of liberal and libertarian prevent you from comprehending the differences between the two words.

In the current context, one word means "supporter of bigger government" and the other means "supporter of smaller government."

You've already explained to everybody that you're on the side of bigger government. Do you know which word that makes you?

I know it's a tricky question, because there's alot of the same letters in the two possible answers. Maybe you can ask somebody to check your answer for you.

23 posted on 09/19/2011 9:43:17 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

I’ll toy with you. Only because I’m bored at the moment and have nothing else to do.

Are you saying libertarians want smaller government? Well, that’s a lie, you know.

Prop. 19 is/was a pefrect example of how libs want to GROW the size of government, not shrink it.

Prop. 19 as yo know, was on the ballot in the land of fruits and nuts. It was aimed at legalizing marijuana. Why? TO TAX IT.

Not to decrease sales, not to end the WOD, not to serve any other purpose but to tax the sale of marijuana.

And libs on this site were creaming their jeans over the possibility that pot might be legal and taxes could be increased and that the size of government will be even larger.

But - sadly for the libs - even Californians knew better than to pass that stupid proposition.


24 posted on 09/19/2011 9:53:18 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: eastforker
True. How many hundreds of tons of Valium has been swallowed since it came out nearly forty years ago?

But as a society what the mission of the war is remains murky. Is it control, elimination, victim, criminal, morals, law, profit, loss, security, good bad, like any substance abuse? what?

Spray the cocoa plants in South America, spare the Afghan poppy fields, Chase some Mexican bringing marijuana across the border, ignore his store selling it in California.

Does anyone really know what they're doing and why?

25 posted on 09/19/2011 9:57:51 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Are you a RoPaul supporter?

Stop it! You've been doing this same thing for years and those who are familiar with the drug war threads are all too familiar with your spiel.
Your whole argument isn't an argument at all.
Throwing around "you're a Paul Bot" or "you're a liberal" because "you're against the WOsD" (you in all of your finery in 2009) or "want to legalize marijuana" (you in all of your finery in 2010) is not an argument, it's a diversion and cheapens nobody but you.
You've got plenty of similar replies over the time you've been here if you would like to be reminded of them.

Is throwing aspersions easier for you than simply arguing your case?

There are plenty of us conservative FReepers who are watching him.
Who else do you and this group of "conservative FReepers" watch?

26 posted on 09/19/2011 10:18:16 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: count-your-change
So here is another question,could we stop illegal drug use in this country? Of course we could. We could make punishment so severe no one would dare use or deal in drugs, would that ever happen, of course not. Why?? Right now there is too much money being made propagating big brother with it being illegal and also the uproar over those measures would be too great to fathom for the electorate.Keep it just illegal enough so people will take a chance, they really do want us to break those laws.
27 posted on 09/19/2011 10:22:05 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: Responsibility2nd; dead
Oh. I see. I called you a lib. As in libertarian.
Ah, you Artful Dodger. Sadly, you're not as nimble as Jack.
Your own words coming back to haunt you...
Lib = Liberal = Libertarian.
No difference.

28 posted on 09/19/2011 10:24:27 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: eastforker

Stupid, lazy and cowardly American illegal drug users are so stupid, lazy and chicken that they won’t attempt to work and change their reality....they just buy and use illegal drugs to try and ignore reality for a few minutes and thereby fund some of the most vicious criminals this world has ever seen.


29 posted on 09/19/2011 10:26:54 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

And they have been doing it since 1776!


30 posted on 09/19/2011 10:29:29 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: Responsibility2nd
I didn't think you could answer the question. Language is hard.

You can call me "lib" or "libertarian" or even "g.gordon libby" if you like, I really don't care. I don't speak for the libertarian party. I don't even know any members personally. I almost always vote Republican, if that matters.

I support smaller government with reduced powers, you support bigger government with increased powers. That's the bottom line.

You support the federal government having horrendous power over the citizens that the founding fathers vociferously and specifically fought to deny to it. You have abandoned their experiment in individual liberty and freedom, because you're afraid your neighbor may smoke some pot.

A pathetic and craven cave on your part. But have a nice day anyway.

31 posted on 09/19/2011 10:30:25 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: philman_36

Gosh. I feel honored.

That you went to all the trouble to research such excellent replies I have made in opposition to surrendering in the WOD, is indeed flattering to me.

Or maybe it’s creepy that you live and breathe by what I post on Free Republic. Are you stalking me?

Either way, I don’t exactly get your point of why many of the links your provided are my responses to the late (not-so) great 10thTrollGuy.

Was he a personal friend of yours? You do know that he was a lib? His FReep page said he was. Even though he denied it and later took down his remarks on his FR page.

Anyway. Thanks for coming on this thread and linking to such great comments that I’ve made. I stand by everyone of them. And I hope that someday - as I’m living rent free in your head - that you too will come to appreicate the conservative values I espouse.


32 posted on 09/19/2011 10:32:07 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
(NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
So if I make a list of my positions and they all line up in accord with conservative values and principals does that make me, or anybody else, a Libertarian or a liberal simply because you disagree with me, or them, on this one lone issue?

What do you perceive you gain in your attempts to disparage others?

33 posted on 09/19/2011 10:33:49 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: eastforker
Contraband laws are absurd. They work as good as alcohol prohibition did.

But the Drug War Fascists will always rationalize their Tyranny, and the ever-expanding State necessary to impose it.

34 posted on 09/19/2011 10:33:51 AM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: eastforker

I don’t think drug use could be stopped but it certainly could be greatly reduced.


35 posted on 09/19/2011 10:36:17 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: blueunicorn6

So tell me, do you think there are less drugs on the street today then ten years ago? Do we have less drug users minus the ones incarcerated? Have we stopped the flow of drugs in this country?? Were drugs cheaper and more available ten years ago? Do kids still smoke pot??


36 posted on 09/19/2011 10:36:17 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: Responsibility2nd
Are you stalking me?
Nope, I'm confronting you, just like I did with the last guy who did what you're doing.
And, as is evident from a previous reply by you, you might consider your own statements first as to just who is "stalking" whom...

There are plenty of us conservative FReepers who are watching him.

37 posted on 09/19/2011 10:43:51 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: eastforker

WOD=JOBS

Lots of folks make a living off of it, on both sides of the law and both sides of the aisle. It’s never going away, in my opinion.

Freegards


38 posted on 09/19/2011 10:50:15 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: philman_36
So. Are you responsible for getting Rick's account zotted?

Be careful how your proceed. And why do you keep posting....

There are plenty of us conservative FReepers who are watching him.

Do not attempt to get in a pissing contest with me. You'll only end up drowning in your own pee.

39 posted on 09/19/2011 10:51:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Ransomed

Yes it does but at whose expense? The TAXPAYER?


40 posted on 09/19/2011 10:52:03 AM PDT by eastforker
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