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Lager Beer's Mystery Yeast
ScienceNOW ^ | 22 August 2011 | Sara Reardon

Posted on 08/22/2011 7:12:21 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/22/2011 7:12:25 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Same family as the others would be my guess. Unless ‘lager’ is unique. This should be linked, later down the thread, to a previous survival thread. The yeast are replaceable.
2 posted on 08/22/2011 7:21:56 PM PDT by allmost
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To: neverdem

A beer is always in order...


3 posted on 08/22/2011 7:24:55 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Obama got mostly Ds and Fs all through college and law school. Keep saying it.....)
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To: allmost
Unless ‘lager’ is unique.

"The key characteristic of lager beer is that it's brewed at low temperatures."

4 posted on 08/22/2011 7:49:14 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Alle bier ist gut! The Germans knew what to do with foreign yeast.
5 posted on 08/22/2011 7:54:23 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: allmost

Ah, you sound like a genuine beer drinker! Heh, actually, the yeast plays the most important part of the process. It performs best at various temperatures and adds flavor that influences the final product. It really can make a fine brew into an extraordinary brew!

Ah, I would have to say that after the grains, the yeast has the most effect on the final product. Hops will add flavor, but are not nearly as prominent in the final product.


6 posted on 08/22/2011 8:26:00 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: knews_hound
Ping-a-ling
7 posted on 08/22/2011 8:33:11 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives - the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: neverdem

So brewing yeasts just happen to naturally live in trees that make good barrels for holding liquids? Do we need any more proof of the existence of God?


8 posted on 08/22/2011 8:40:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: neverdem

Ahh, I’m just sitting hear drinking a cold home brew. Thinking to my self that Lager is brewed at the same temp as any other beer, rolling boil. But it is fermented at cooler temperatures over a longer period of time. Yest definitely influences the flavor of beer. But no more then grains, process or hops. I would say the largest influence on flavor is cleanliness. JMHO


9 posted on 08/22/2011 9:02:01 PM PDT by JoSixChip (Top 10% of wage earners pay 70% of total income taxes collected. Bottom 50% pay less then 3%, fair?)
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"But no more then grains, process or hops. I would say the largest influence on flavor is cleanliness. JMHO"

Having won 12 ribbons at the WA State Fair, I can tell you that's not necessarily true.

Cleanliness is paramount in all fermentation...but temperature is critical when it comes to any beer. It's important to ferment at the lowest temp the yeast will tolerate and still be active enough to crowd out nefarious bacteria and "other" yeasts. When fermented too warm you end up with those crappy Belgian Ales:)

Garbage, each and every one lol

Seriously, Cleanliness and Temperature are key.

10 posted on 08/22/2011 9:21:33 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I LOVE Belgian Witbeers, and their American Wheat counterparts.


11 posted on 08/22/2011 9:46:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: neverdem

I for one welcome our new yeast overlords and the beverage they control us with.


12 posted on 08/22/2011 9:53:19 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: neverdem; knews_hound

PING!!!!

One thing that has surprised me is that how often, before I put bottles into the fridge, I pop the tops to de-compress them.

Then, when I open them a week or a month later, they have obviously still been fermenting.

From everything I have heard, all them yeasties should have been in a deep sleep at 40 degrees F.

Insomniac yeast I guess!!!!


13 posted on 08/22/2011 9:59:58 PM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: ApplegateRanch; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks ApplegateRanch and neverdem. To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


14 posted on 08/23/2011 2:19:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Mariner

I think brewers use Candida to brew Steel; Reserve.


15 posted on 08/23/2011 3:55:27 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: djf; decal; quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; B Knotts; doodad; ...
Pinging the Homebrewers for some interesting news.

Thanks for the ping DJF and decal.



On or off the Homebrewers Ping List, let me know.

Cheers,

knewshound

Homebrewing 1A (Homebrewing for beginners)


16 posted on 08/23/2011 8:17:59 AM PDT by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: Mariner

Interesting. My experience has been that temperature is over rated.


17 posted on 08/23/2011 8:32:39 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: allmost

not only is lager unique, it is extremely unique.

ale ferments at warmer temps and ferments from the top of the keg down. lager ferments and very cold temps and ferments from the bottom up. Ale contains many more vitamins that are natural remedies to hang overs. Lager lacks this.

Interestingly, steam beer(invented in california during the gold rush I believe) is lager beer that is fermented at ale temps. I think it was invented by someone that either a) didn’t know that lager yeast was supposed to ferment at lower temps, or b) knew this but didn’t have access to a cold cellar or to ale yeast so was forced to make do with the mismatch.


18 posted on 08/23/2011 8:39:49 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: neverdem

As that great philosopher, Homer, said, “Mmmmmmm...beer...”


19 posted on 08/23/2011 10:07:20 AM PDT by redhead (I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. —)
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To: Boogieman

“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Ben Franklin

Common descent of yeasties and beer evolution!


20 posted on 08/23/2011 10:12:35 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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