Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 08/20/2011 8:32:35 AM PDT by Immerito
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Immerito

same topic, same source:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2766540/posts


2 posted on 08/20/2011 8:34:55 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito
“They should have made sure they had concrete evidence before they knock in someone’s door,” Davis said

That would make too much sense and would save the taxpayers a few bucks that would lost to the resulting lawsuits.


4 posted on 08/20/2011 8:42:48 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito

6 posted on 08/20/2011 8:46:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito

LOL...if a “disorderly house” is a criminal offense, I’m going up the river for a long time.


7 posted on 08/20/2011 8:47:38 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito

In my opinion, when the cops come up empty in a cluster snafu like this, they should face the same charges I and my buddies would face if we invaded the house. Sort of a loser-pays system but I expect cops would be even more prone to plant evidence.


8 posted on 08/20/2011 8:48:49 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito

What? They couldn’t find a cat to stomp to death or a dog to shoot in front of the family? They were probably really hoping to prone out the wheelchair-bound, alzheimer’s grandparent. Animals.


9 posted on 08/20/2011 8:51:01 AM PDT by KingLudd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito
the tenants of the house, Justin Davis, 28, and his girlfriend, Erica Lewis, 26, were charged with disorderly house

wtf is that?

you can get charged for not picking up your room?

10 posted on 08/20/2011 9:03:23 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito

SWAT busts down wrong door.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY82seEBw5w


11 posted on 08/20/2011 9:08:30 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito
Disorderly house is described as a building or room where someone “resorted to for” illegal activity involving drugs, alcohol, gambling or prostitution, according to a city ordinance.

Bull$hit! Anyone living in a home with a closet could be charged with this. Swat team CYA charges.
15 posted on 08/20/2011 9:41:50 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito
i remember my swat encounter, back in 1987 (I've always been a trendsetter). talking about it was like trying to tell people you were abducted by aliens.

Now it's routine. There might as well be SWAT Encounters website or reality tv show.

16 posted on 08/20/2011 9:42:09 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito

Davis said his 5-year-old daughter was in her room when officers busted a hole in the front door

Can’t these thugs knock?


21 posted on 08/20/2011 10:11:56 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito
They don't even need a warrant. Happened in my neighborhood. Team of narcotics agents swarmed a house. One came to a basement door, and asked the wife if he could come in and look around. She said sure and asked what was going on.

They went upstairs and the house had about 8 officers milling around inside and 8 or more outside in the front yard. They asked if the husband could come out and see if he knew the guy outside that had pulled in the driveway. So the wife asked the husband to come out of the room where he was at the computer.

While the polite policeman was giving her the details, the husband came out and opened the front door to see the person that they were talking to; he was stopped by an aggressive, rude, agent who drew down on him with a revolver.

Cop then asked if he had anything in his pockets. He said yes and pulled out a closed pocket knife to hand to the cop who started screaming and became extremely agitated. The wife asked him to calm down, said we are cooperating so why are you treating my husband like that?

The cop got nasty with the wife, and shook the pocket knife in her face, and said you think he couldn't hurt me with this? Then he asked if husband knew the person. The husband said I do not recognize him. Cop says you are lying, because he knows your name. Wife points out that husband is a retired school teacher, and lots of people know where he lives, but are not necessarily recognized 10 years after graduation.

Then they drag out the housekeeper and stand her in the sun under grilling for over an hour, but finally gave her a bottle of water. Bad cop states that both housekeeper and guy in handcuffs are involved in making meth-guaranteed no doubt about it.

After about 3 hrs. bad cop comes over and says do not fire housekeeper, she is probably innocent. Guy was followed for 80 miles with suspected meth precursor. Guy said he picked up boxes of matches for a friends wedding.

No arrest, they confiscated the matches, told neighbors they doubted the DA would do anything. No apology. Wife called them out on bad behavior, bad cop tried to justify, and stomped off.

The person of interest does handyman chores. Housekeeper had called him to help her at her house, and told him where she would be to talk about it. Neighbors house was on the way to his girlfriend's house, he decided to stop by instead of phone.

Next day, granddaughter was taunted at school that her grandmother's house was raided for drugs, etc. etc. Neighbor visited all the houses on the block that could have seen the fiasco, explained what had happened, and asked if everyone would help set the record straight.

School rumor was traced to teenager in the neighborhood whose mom believed that they have to have some sort of evidence to swarm a house. Father knew better, and told the daughter to set record straight and not be spreading gossip.

So a suspect who for any reason pulls into your driveway is enough for an unauthorized search, pat down etc. etc.

25 posted on 08/20/2011 11:35:36 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito
We don’t take just one person’s word, under normal circumstances,”

OTOH, the converse is not true. You better take their word at the risk of your life..........

29 posted on 08/20/2011 2:44:22 PM PDT by doorgunner69
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Immerito

“...were charged with disorderly house...”

WTH?? They control how you will keep house now?? This is gone far enough!


34 posted on 08/20/2011 10:41:57 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson