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To: Immerito
They don't even need a warrant. Happened in my neighborhood. Team of narcotics agents swarmed a house. One came to a basement door, and asked the wife if he could come in and look around. She said sure and asked what was going on.

They went upstairs and the house had about 8 officers milling around inside and 8 or more outside in the front yard. They asked if the husband could come out and see if he knew the guy outside that had pulled in the driveway. So the wife asked the husband to come out of the room where he was at the computer.

While the polite policeman was giving her the details, the husband came out and opened the front door to see the person that they were talking to; he was stopped by an aggressive, rude, agent who drew down on him with a revolver.

Cop then asked if he had anything in his pockets. He said yes and pulled out a closed pocket knife to hand to the cop who started screaming and became extremely agitated. The wife asked him to calm down, said we are cooperating so why are you treating my husband like that?

The cop got nasty with the wife, and shook the pocket knife in her face, and said you think he couldn't hurt me with this? Then he asked if husband knew the person. The husband said I do not recognize him. Cop says you are lying, because he knows your name. Wife points out that husband is a retired school teacher, and lots of people know where he lives, but are not necessarily recognized 10 years after graduation.

Then they drag out the housekeeper and stand her in the sun under grilling for over an hour, but finally gave her a bottle of water. Bad cop states that both housekeeper and guy in handcuffs are involved in making meth-guaranteed no doubt about it.

After about 3 hrs. bad cop comes over and says do not fire housekeeper, she is probably innocent. Guy was followed for 80 miles with suspected meth precursor. Guy said he picked up boxes of matches for a friends wedding.

No arrest, they confiscated the matches, told neighbors they doubted the DA would do anything. No apology. Wife called them out on bad behavior, bad cop tried to justify, and stomped off.

The person of interest does handyman chores. Housekeeper had called him to help her at her house, and told him where she would be to talk about it. Neighbors house was on the way to his girlfriend's house, he decided to stop by instead of phone.

Next day, granddaughter was taunted at school that her grandmother's house was raided for drugs, etc. etc. Neighbor visited all the houses on the block that could have seen the fiasco, explained what had happened, and asked if everyone would help set the record straight.

School rumor was traced to teenager in the neighborhood whose mom believed that they have to have some sort of evidence to swarm a house. Father knew better, and told the daughter to set record straight and not be spreading gossip.

So a suspect who for any reason pulls into your driveway is enough for an unauthorized search, pat down etc. etc.

25 posted on 08/20/2011 11:35:36 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
While the polite policeman was giving her the details, the husband came out and opened the front door to see the person that they were talking to; he was stopped by an aggressive, rude, agent who drew down on him with a revolver.

Where did this happen?

I am just curious as to what agency is still using revolvers.

26 posted on 08/20/2011 12:41:34 PM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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