[Kartographer]

Lack of clean water and lack of santation will kill as many or more than 'zombies' during shtf.

[GraceG]

[katykelly]

^

[sten]

how would you use bleach to ‘clean water’?

do you mean add it to water and clean with that, or to make it drinkable... which is implied with the boiling statement

[Kartographer]

PING!!!

[Venturer]

If I cannot buy bleach what makes this person think I can find the substances to make my own?

[yarddog]

Just be careful never to mix bleach and ammonia. It creates a strong poison gas.

I once did it and fortunately as soon as I got just a whiff, I got out of there. It wasn’t until later that I learned for sure that it was extremely dangerous.

[30Moves]

Nice info but I think I’ll stick to vinegar which you can put in water to kill germs, rinse your hands in it to kill bacteria, edible - non toxic - multiple uses and cheaper than bleach.

[ansel12]

What does SHTF mean?

[driftdiver]

Storing calcium hypochlorite has special considerations. First of all its an oxidizer, which means it will accelerate any fire it is exposed to by releasing oxygen.

Secondly it will penetrate the bags its generally shipped in and anything permeable to oxygen, like ziplock bags. It will cause metal containers to rust. It will also contaminate any food products stored near it.

I’ve read that glass jars are the best for long term storage. Keep it clean and dry and the stuff will last a long time.

Also, it will kill any organisms in the water, but it won’t remove other contaminates. Additionally filtration is recommended if possible.

[agere_contra]

Thanks Kartographer, great information.

A infinite shelf-life method of disinfecting drinking water is to drop (say) a oz of silver in the water and leave it overnight. The silver can be re-used pretty much for ever.

But of course this method just disinfects water: it’s probably no use for cleaning kitchen surfaces, wound-stations and so forth. Sometimes you need bleach.

[silverleaf]

This is an excellent blog - thanks

[dila813]

Fantastic post, you made me look

[Bean Counter]

Isn’t there a granulated chlorine product that is used for swimming pools that is just as effective as bleach, and lasts a lot longer?? “Hyperchlorate” or “Hyperchloride” both come to mind, but I am not certain which one is correct to use....

[EN1 Sailor]

Test

[bgill]

Thanks, printed it out.

[djf]

Cholera and amoebic dysentery have probably killed more people than all the wars of history, combined.

I suspect it is a large contributor to why infant mortality has been so high in the past.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2574489/posts

[Vinnie]

Ping

[CodeToad]

I prefer filtration for water as filters have an indefinite shelf life versus chemicals that do not.

[jwalsh07]

[LowOiL]

Thanks for information, I keep about 8 gallons of bleach on stock, but didn’t know the shelf life was so short.