Posted on 08/10/2011 10:04:52 AM PDT by Kartographer
One of the main components that you’ll want to have around the house (or apartment) during a SHTF situation is chlorine bleach. Not only can it be used for cleaning water (although boiling is hands down more effective and healthier) it is excellent for keeping things sanitary.
Unfortunately, the average shelf life of liquid bleach (being stored between 50 and 70 degrees Fahrenheit) is around 6 months. After that, bleach will lose 20% of it’s strength at around the year mark and then 20% each year after that. So if you’re not vigilant about keeping it rotated, chances are when you need it for disinfecting water or to keep things clean you’ll be fresh out of bleach and luck.
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Sure, hand pumps have filter life spans, fairly long ones, too, but you can have lots of them and they do not go bad sitting on a shelf.
Also, 200 gallons is a lot of water for a small $40 filter that can sit on a shelf forever. Larger sized filters with electric/hand pumps can go 300,000 gallons, but cost $1,200.
Chlorine lasts 12 months if kept in 70 degree storage. Chlorine can also be abused and make people sick; unlikely for most people but it does happen. Transport of Chlorine is risky as spillages can be costly to the destruction of other preps.
Again, anything even remotely difficult to get, keep, or use is not in my preps. Anything with a limited shelf life like Chlorine is also discounted. On the go, filters allow immediate driking water. At home, filters allow large quantities of water using a safe and reliable means through filtration.
Berky filters can be cleaned and reused almost indefinitely. If you pre-filter the junk out they’ll also last much longer.
An alternative to bleach is iodine.
U can buy liquidized iodine solutions at most farm supply stores.
About 5 drops per quart, and if you let it sit open overnight most of the iodine will air out of it.
NOT TO BE USED BY PREGNANT WOMEN, PEOPLE WITH THYROID DISEASE, OR PEOPLE ALLERGIC TO IODINE!!
The big advantage here being iodine solution, like Gentle Iodine, will never go bad as long as it’s sealed.
I got a couple quarts stashed somewhere...
So it appears you completely missed the point of the article. No one is saying to store clorine gas or even clorine bleach.
I will need to look at the bag when I get home. I know one of their products I use in my swimming pool is 98% Calcium Hypochloride. I thought it was Burn Out. They keep changing the names and formulas all the time.
I’m sure the EPA would have loved him. I don’T think the gophers were protected back then. Probably are now though.
Berky’s are used all over the world and have been for decades. Not as portable as I’d like but you don’t get any better.
I’m sure the EPA would have loved him. I don’T think the gophers were protected back then. Probably are now though.
Yes they can be cleaned, but I wonder what they reconmend you clean them with? Also there is as I pointed out this from Berkey:
Also from Berkey:
WHAT ABOUT VIRUSES?
The extremely small size of viruses make them difficult for any filter to contain.
Chlorine is the most convenient means of eliminating the water-borne threat of any virus.
Black Berkey water treatment method is an integral part of this method of treating virus-contaminated water supplies.
The accepted standard for the use of chlorine to kill water-borne viruses is 8 to 16 drops of chlorine (common bleach) per gallon of water. ( Better too much than too little)
Add the chlorine to the water in the upper chamber.
Note: Chlorine and its residuals are considered by leading authorities to be harmful to you health.
The Black Berkey Filter elements remove the chlorine and its harmful residuals from the chlorinated water, leaving you with ultra-pure, safe, fresh-tasting water.
I’m not super worried about viruses in the water. We get exposed to plenty of those all day long.
You clean the filters by brushing them and then allowing them to air dry.
I also have an RO filter but it requires pressure which may not be available.
BTW, I’m not suggesting you shouldn’t have any of this useful chemical. Just that I personally plan to use filters for my primary source.
I do not care what you post, Kartographer is a solid source of first class preparedness information that I and many here on FR appreciate and participate in.
In the split second just before your loved one dies from a malady that could of been prevented by simple precautions taught here make sure you do not use a cuss word when it occurs to you that you could of learned something if you hadn't been so offended by FOUR simple letters on a website.
It's just words. That's all. Learn from them or suffer the consequences.
How can you do that and not teach them how to id ore deposits and how to work a mine and a refinery, to make the brass that makes the oil lamps, or how to build a whaling ship and sail it, and hunt a whale and render its oil?
You don’t have to know how to make chlorine bleach. Hobbies are fine. Extreme prep may be okay as a weird hobby, but otherwise it’s unreal and wasteful.
Oh I know about them, I just don’t see them as a enormous issue. I have plans to collect water, clean it, and then filter it.
UV is also something which does a great job of killing stuff, something we have a lot of here in Florida.
My mistake. You are absolutely right. I remember now. I love the show. What a hoot!
Great ideas. Thanks. I never thought of hydorgen peroxide. And if you spill it you will not ruin your clothing.
I believe Paul said it best in 1 Cor 5 when he said: "For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? Dp you not judge them that are within? But them that are without God judges."
In other words...what do I care what the world says or how they say it. It's not up to me to judge them...it's God who judges them. So...what you see as "Defending decadence" is simply living the scripture. Pigs wallow in mud. I, therefore, am not shocked when they do it. Nor do I see it as a victory of the "left." I see it as a victory of sin over mortal man and that means God judges it...not me. The "Christian" who fains discust at their antics is, in actuality, taking God's judgment FROM him when they decry the wickedness of sinful man.
So...did the 1st century Christian run around covering their eyes...and their ears as they strolled past the Roman and Greek decadence in order to keep their pollyanna pureness in tact? And if a little of that evil darkness got in...did they blame it on the left? If their fellow believers didn't acted "SHOCKED!!!" did they accuse them of being defenders!!! and calling it Christian?
No. I think they were a little more mature than that.
5 lb.s calcium hypochlorite - $10 = 10,000 gallons of purified water.
Water filter $40 = 200 gallons of filtered water.
Chlorine gas dissipates from the purified water into the air. Perfectly safe.
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