Posted on 06/08/2011 1:11:49 PM PDT by Morgana
Los Angeles (CNN) -- Kirk Andrew Murphy seemed to have everything to live for.
He put himself through school. He had a successful 8-year career in the Air Force. After the service, he landed a high profile position with an American finance company in India.
But in 2003 at age 38, Kirk Murphy took his own life.
A co-worker found him hanging from the fan of his apartment in New Delhi. His family has struggled for years to understand what happened.
"I used to spend so much time thinking, why would he kill himself at the age of 38? It doesn't make any sense to me," said Kirk's sister, Maris Murphy. "What I now think is I don't know how he made it that long."
After Kirk's death, Maris started a search that would uncover a dark family secret. That secret revealed itself during a phone conversation with her older brother Mark, who mentioned his distrust of any kind of therapy.
"Don't you remember all that crap we went through at UCLA?" he asked her. Maris was too young to remember the details, but Mark remembered it vividly as a low point in their lives.
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We all know this is a CNN hit piece - people are much more happier when they follow their “gay” urges, right?
But reading through the story, the father basically beat the kid with a belt when he did more feminine things. Of course the kid turned out nuts.
So much for any wisdom anyone might have thought there was in government run studies.
That was a heartbreaking story.
I went to school with a guy who was very effeminate like that. Without “therapy” he grew into one of the most manly men I’ve ever known despite remaining seemingly effeminate.
Today he has 8 kids of his own and has gone bow hunting for Buffalo in Africa with Ted Nugent.
I skimmed the article and saw the phrase ‘ her husband ‘. Was this in fact, the boys biological father or some type of step father?
My question would be: did the positive reinforcement damage him, or the corporal punishment? I suspect the latter. Had they continued to reward positive behavior and ignore the undesirable behavior — and omitted the spankings — I think the outcome would have been very different. There is a big difference in those two ways of dealing with children.
Secular humanist libtards want to be able to prove that certain alternative lifestyles such as homosexuality are legitimate because they are biologically determined from birth. If they succeed with homosexuality, then pedophilia and incest is next on their list.
If a boy plays with dolls you take them away from him. You don’t beat the living $hit out of him.
Definitely a hit piece. Why is a suicide from 8 years ago now “news”?
Have they ruled out that maybe he was engaging in the sort of sexual self stimulating asphyxiation that David Carradine died doing?
That’s a heartbreaking story. I cannot imagine the sadness that little boy must have felt. God bless him.
Don’t think we have all the pertinent details of this story.
Don’t think we have all the pertinent details of this story.
CNN wants to give us the message “let gays be gays” - whatever. Maybe the kid would have grown-up gay, maybe not, maybe he had many problems outside of whatever this so-called therapy did to him.
The message I take from this article, at least with the facts given by CNN, is that - do not trust the self-styled “experts” or child-rearing fashions of the age, who believe they can reform, revise or otherwise screw around with God’s creation. This includes all secular humanists.
I couldn’t finish the article; it made me too sad. This type of aversion therapy is what a lot of the anti-gay FReepers would probably do to their innocent children. I have been so excoriated here on FR for standing up to the fact that when boys come out effeminate, it is NOT THEIR FAULT, nor their parents’ fault, and that they should be allowed happy childhoods, and to play as they wish, because they have a condition just as much as kids with autism or Down Syndrome have.
Just because some FReepers think gender differences are “icky” and might lead to homosexuality, they castigate innocent children. They’d prefer to risk a man’s suicide one day, and an utter unhappy life, just so their kid isn’t homosexual. No one does this any more to kids with autism or Down Syndrome. They are allowed to be loved, and to play the way they play, and it’s OK. But little gender-atypical innocent kids are treated like it’s a moral issue.
I hope one or two of you who always fight me on this will read this article and maybe have more sympathy. I’ve never supported any kind of gay agenda; I’ve always only supported innocent children who like things that are not gender-typical.
I was raising kids in the ‘60s and ‘70s and I would never have allowed any of my children to go through such therapy. In fact, it was common in the 60s & 70s to buy toys for children that were traditionally assumed to belong to one gender and to allow the other gender access to them. Kitchen sets and dolls for boys to play house and tinker toys and Lincoln logs for girls to build things. This was not a problem in my house because I had 2 boys and 2 girls. They all played with all the toys.
I always remember my copy of the ORIGINAL Dr. Spock who was asked if it was OK to spank your kid in anger. Dr. Spock answered that it was far worse to spank your kid when you were NOT angry — sick, in fact. Dr. Spock added (in that edition) that to PLAN a spanking was cruel punishment. He also said to NEVER use a weapon, such as a belt, paddle, twig, or razor strap — all utensils commonly used in the 40s and 50s. One or two swats with the HAND was OK — anything beyond that was child abuse.
I don’t know where it says in this article that the young man in question wanted to be gay. That seems to be just assumed. Do we know that was the problem?
It looks to me that the PARENTS and the THERAPIST were the actual problems.
I have talked about this stuff with my wife, who worries a lot about our children and their sexual identities, and in those conversations I have become more and more certain that much of what happens in these situations are the result of self-fulfilling prophecies. People fear their child is gay, react to it, and by so doing stimulate a reaction towards what they fear. It seems to me that the best approach is to treat your child as a person and not an experiment. Love them, support them, and encourage them. Without very solid knowledge of the many causes and effects which act on a person in life tampering with their personality in this way too much is as likely to backfire and create what you fear, or worse as this article may demonstrate, as it is to help. That is my take on it anyway.
"Them"? YOU did this, lady. You willingly participated for years.
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