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We all know this is a CNN hit piece - people are much more happier when they follow their “gay” urges, right?
But reading through the story, the father basically beat the kid with a belt when he did more feminine things. Of course the kid turned out nuts.
So much for any wisdom anyone might have thought there was in government run studies.
That was a heartbreaking story.
I went to school with a guy who was very effeminate like that. Without “therapy” he grew into one of the most manly men I’ve ever known despite remaining seemingly effeminate.
Today he has 8 kids of his own and has gone bow hunting for Buffalo in Africa with Ted Nugent.
My question would be: did the positive reinforcement damage him, or the corporal punishment? I suspect the latter. Had they continued to reward positive behavior and ignore the undesirable behavior — and omitted the spankings — I think the outcome would have been very different. There is a big difference in those two ways of dealing with children.
Secular humanist libtards want to be able to prove that certain alternative lifestyles such as homosexuality are legitimate because they are biologically determined from birth. If they succeed with homosexuality, then pedophilia and incest is next on their list.
Have they ruled out that maybe he was engaging in the sort of sexual self stimulating asphyxiation that David Carradine died doing?
CNN wants to give us the message “let gays be gays” - whatever. Maybe the kid would have grown-up gay, maybe not, maybe he had many problems outside of whatever this so-called therapy did to him.
The message I take from this article, at least with the facts given by CNN, is that - do not trust the self-styled “experts” or child-rearing fashions of the age, who believe they can reform, revise or otherwise screw around with God’s creation. This includes all secular humanists.
I couldn’t finish the article; it made me too sad. This type of aversion therapy is what a lot of the anti-gay FReepers would probably do to their innocent children. I have been so excoriated here on FR for standing up to the fact that when boys come out effeminate, it is NOT THEIR FAULT, nor their parents’ fault, and that they should be allowed happy childhoods, and to play as they wish, because they have a condition just as much as kids with autism or Down Syndrome have.
Just because some FReepers think gender differences are “icky” and might lead to homosexuality, they castigate innocent children. They’d prefer to risk a man’s suicide one day, and an utter unhappy life, just so their kid isn’t homosexual. No one does this any more to kids with autism or Down Syndrome. They are allowed to be loved, and to play the way they play, and it’s OK. But little gender-atypical innocent kids are treated like it’s a moral issue.
I hope one or two of you who always fight me on this will read this article and maybe have more sympathy. I’ve never supported any kind of gay agenda; I’ve always only supported innocent children who like things that are not gender-typical.
I was raising kids in the ‘60s and ‘70s and I would never have allowed any of my children to go through such therapy. In fact, it was common in the 60s & 70s to buy toys for children that were traditionally assumed to belong to one gender and to allow the other gender access to them. Kitchen sets and dolls for boys to play house and tinker toys and Lincoln logs for girls to build things. This was not a problem in my house because I had 2 boys and 2 girls. They all played with all the toys.
I always remember my copy of the ORIGINAL Dr. Spock who was asked if it was OK to spank your kid in anger. Dr. Spock answered that it was far worse to spank your kid when you were NOT angry — sick, in fact. Dr. Spock added (in that edition) that to PLAN a spanking was cruel punishment. He also said to NEVER use a weapon, such as a belt, paddle, twig, or razor strap — all utensils commonly used in the 40s and 50s. One or two swats with the HAND was OK — anything beyond that was child abuse.
I don’t know where it says in this article that the young man in question wanted to be gay. That seems to be just assumed. Do we know that was the problem?
It looks to me that the PARENTS and the THERAPIST were the actual problems.
"Them"? YOU did this, lady. You willingly participated for years.
Homosexuals have a far higher rate of suicide than hets.
If you want to keep your child from suicide do try to discourage any homosexual behavior.
Unbelievable!
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“Then Kaytee Murphy saw a psychologist on local television.
“He was naming all of these things; ‘If your son is doing five of these 10 things, does he prefer to play with girls’ toys instead of boys’ toys?’ Just things like this,” she said.
The doctor was on TV that day, recruiting boys for a government-funded program at the University of California, Los Angeles.
“Well, him being the expert, I thought, maybe I should take Kirk in,” said Kaytee Murphy. “In other words, nip it in the bud, before it got started any further.”
Kirk becomes ‘Kraig’
Kaytee Murphy took Kirk to UCLA, where he was treated largely by George A. Rekers, a doctoral student at the time.
In Rekers’ study documenting his experimental therapy (PDF), he writes about a boy he calls “Kraig.” Another UCLA gender researcher confirmed that “Kraig” was a pseudonym for Kirk.”
...
Rekers, who conducted the therapy on Kirk, went on to build a career of influence based on the premise from his research that homosexuality can be prevented.
He became a founding member of the Family Research Council, a faith-based organization that lobbies against gay-rights issues. Rekers was also on the board of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, an organization of scientists that says its mission is to offer treatment to those who struggle with what they call “unwanted homosexuality.”
“He's viewed as an expert by some, you know, when it's — when it serves their purposes,” said Bryant. “So, you know, basically, conservative and what I would call mostly ‘fringe’ groups have really, you know, Rekers as their poster boy.”
Just last year, Rekers’ days as an anti-gay champion would come to an end. He hired a male escort to accompany him on his trip to Europe.
Unbelievable!
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“Then Kaytee Murphy saw a psychologist on local television.
“He was naming all of these things; ‘If your son is doing five of these 10 things, does he prefer to play with girls’ toys instead of boys’ toys?’ Just things like this,” she said.
The doctor was on TV that day, recruiting boys for a government-funded program at the University of California, Los Angeles.
“Well, him being the expert, I thought, maybe I should take Kirk in,” said Kaytee Murphy. “In other words, nip it in the bud, before it got started any further.”
Kirk becomes ‘Kraig’
Kaytee Murphy took Kirk to UCLA, where he was treated largely by George A. Rekers, a doctoral student at the time.
In Rekers’ study documenting his experimental therapy (PDF), he writes about a boy he calls “Kraig.” Another UCLA gender researcher confirmed that “Kraig” was a pseudonym for Kirk.”
...
Rekers, who conducted the therapy on Kirk, went on to build a career of influence based on the premise from his research that homosexuality can be prevented.
He became a founding member of the Family Research Council, a faith-based organization that lobbies against gay-rights issues. Rekers was also on the board of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, an organization of scientists that says its mission is to offer treatment to those who struggle with what they call “unwanted homosexuality.”
“He's viewed as an expert by some, you know, when it's — when it serves their purposes,” said Bryant. “So, you know, basically, conservative and what I would call mostly ‘fringe’ groups have really, you know, Rekers as their poster boy.”
Just last year, Rekers’ days as an anti-gay champion would come to an end. He hired a male escort to accompany him on his trip to Europe.
Unbelievable!
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“Then Kaytee Murphy saw a psychologist on local television.
“He was naming all of these things; ‘If your son is doing five of these 10 things, does he prefer to play with girls’ toys instead of boys’ toys?’ Just things like this,” she said.
The doctor was on TV that day, recruiting boys for a government-funded program at the University of California, Los Angeles.
“Well, him being the expert, I thought, maybe I should take Kirk in,” said Kaytee Murphy. “In other words, nip it in the bud, before it got started any further.”
Kirk becomes ‘Kraig’
Kaytee Murphy took Kirk to UCLA, where he was treated largely by George A. Rekers, a doctoral student at the time.
In Rekers’ study documenting his experimental therapy (PDF), he writes about a boy he calls “Kraig.” Another UCLA gender researcher confirmed that “Kraig” was a pseudonym for Kirk.”
...
Rekers, who conducted the therapy on Kirk, went on to build a career of influence based on the premise from his research that homosexuality can be prevented.
He became a founding member of the Family Research Council, a faith-based organization that lobbies against gay-rights issues. Rekers was also on the board of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, an organization of scientists that says its mission is to offer treatment to those who struggle with what they call “unwanted homosexuality.”
“He's viewed as an expert by some, you know, when it's — when it serves their purposes,” said Bryant. “So, you know, basically, conservative and what I would call mostly ‘fringe’ groups have really, you know, Rekers as their poster boy.”
Just last year, Rekers’ days as an anti-gay champion would come to an end. He hired a male escort to accompany him on his trip to Europe.
How could ANY parent allow this sick so-called therapy to be practiced on their child??? And if I ever got my hands on this Rekers b***ard...